Real Exorcism of Anneliese Michel

wutwutwutinthebutt Says:

May 30, 2012 - LMAO. idk why, but I laughed so hard at this.

UTube4588 Says:

May 30, 2012 - FAKE! 

ronove666gremoa Says:

May 30, 2012 - 悪魔なんてなーいさ♪

13eyeofthebeholder Says:

May 30, 2012 - I'm not saying she was possessed or if it even occurs but her symptoms would have been difficult to diagnose even today.Speaking in languages she's never learnt and remaining a solid student whilst her exorcisms were undertaken are a mystery.She doesn't fit the usual schizophrenic/multiple personality disorder categories.I feel today she may not have been cured, just overmedicated and nursed.

H4rDCoR3e Says:

May 30, 2012 - ahahha san andreas words =D

Lloydy69able Says:

May 30, 2012 - Na thats not fake, that is a complete different person, she didnt need medical help as medical help never even helped her when she was on it. Just look at her face as say that medical care would of helped her. she was truely possessed by a powerful demon or demons. Anyone who watches this and thinks she should of carried on medical treatment then i think its you that needs medicine

Kathrina Auer Says:

May 30, 2012 - At risk of further mockery - I deal with people suffering demonic harassment, most days. & actually, the need for exorcisms has skyrocketed. It's thought that because the Catholic church is the only 1 conducting exorcisms openly, & only 1000 are performed yearly that's all the exorcisms that are performed. In reality, many denominations have an unofficial sect devoted to casting out demons. But they're undocumented so generally unknown of.

Kathrina Auer Says:

May 30, 2012 - If the total amount of exorcisms was to be recorded on a global scale, I would estimate around 10000 to 18000 exorcisms performed yearly. On an additional note, this case is realy only famous because she died. I've seen far more disturbing & serious cases in recent yrs. But we have more knowledge & a better ability to cope now, so noone has ever died in our exorcisms or under our care. If Anneliese had of recieved it, she'd still be alive & her case unknown of.

Kathrina Auer Says:

May 30, 2012 - You can't have been a very thorough reader then.

Porphyrygrampus Says:

May 30, 2012 - Thanks for the welcome back 13! Sadly the weather was cold and rainy. Good weather came in the day I left! Typical. Thanks for spam warning. 35 had already warned me, too. I get the impression since last night things are returning to normal, so do tell me if you can see this one. If you can't it'll be 2 days or so before it appears. Either the atheist faction hate the truth about Einstein/Dawkins, or just quoting E. gets one flagged. Probably others have quoted that passage on YT, too.

Kathrina Auer Says:

May 30, 2012 - My former post was incomplete & sounded more rude than I'd intended (clicked post accidentally). - Mathew 12:25-26 'Knowing their thoughts he said to them "Every kingdom divided against itself comes to desolation, and every city and every house divided against itself cannot stand. In the same way, if Satan expels Satan, he has become divided against himself; how then, will his kingdom stand?'

britneybitch37 Says:

May 30, 2012 - starvation combined with epilepsy medication withdrawal -simple as.

Porphyrygrampus Says:

May 30, 2012 - I see my arguing in favour of death by epilepsy medication withdrawal for over a year here has begun at last to bear fruits on YT. You seem the first one apart from myself to come to mention it here. But it's not 'simple as'. The medical judgement was malnutrition not starvation. And this demon talk here is nine months before her death so, as her abandoning her meds was in May 76, it doesn't explain her demons but it does explain her death a few weeks later.

Porphyrygrampus Says:

May 30, 2012 - As you're a person of experience in this matter I welcome you here. We've been fruitlessly trying to explain to madkate, whose posts are around p.8 now, that protestants are often keener exorcists than RCC. You can assure her(?) of that. I guess madkate is German Lutheran, who've long been ultra-modernist. (Your 'sect' must be section?). Thanks too for the support you happen to give to my long arguing here that there is a possession crisis nowadays by the statistical estimate you later give us.

Porphyrygrampus Says:

May 30, 2012 - While agreeing that probably no one would have heard of Anneliese had she not died and her exorcists been tried, I would say that this case is famous because of the long series of audio-tapes that were made by the priests. Without the trial we would not have them, so in a way her death was a necessary step for them to reach us. The case is remarkable as one where the victim had a Marian vision with miracle(?) asking her to let the demons in to prove Satan existed and so save untold numbers.

Porphyrygrampus Says:

May 30, 2012 - As for your idea that Anneliese would have lived had she been in your care, I feel that is speculation. Her death was not caused by the exorcism, nor did she die during exorcism but in her sleep. Her exorcists indeed were told beforehand by their trainer that no one had ever died in an RCC exorcism. The exorcism was really over when at end of Feb76 her demons stopped speaking so Fr Alt left. But 1 priest did arrive to say a few prayers over her & give her absolution the evening before she died.

Porphyrygrampus Says:

May 30, 2012 - Her death was four months after the real exorcism was over. It was connected most likely to her dropping her epilepsy meds in May, but her priests had no idea about that and would have strongly remonstrated had they. It seems unlikely the parents knew either - AM had always been responsible for renewing her prescriptions and taking her pills. I doubt your section could have sufficient control of your cases to prevent such an unplanned thing happening.

MrOrange121 Says:

May 30, 2012 - Christ already died for the sins of everyone, to say this dumb bitch died for the sin of German youth is fucking blasphemous. Fuck Roman Catholicism.

Kathrina Auer Says:

May 30, 2012 - I appreciate what your saying about her epilepsy, & no, we couldn't have prevented that. But I wasn't addressing her illness so much as the precise cause of her death - malnutrition & dehydration from almost a 1yr of semi-starvation. - Today, some way would have been found to make her eat & drink. Yes, she would have continued to suffer from seizures - but there would be a higher chance that it would have been discovered.

Kathrina Auer Says:

May 30, 2012 - I was including most Penticostal divisions practicing exorcisms in that statement.

CharlesofAustria Says:

May 30, 2012 - His death doesn't cover sins commited in the future. That's why He instituted Confession.

junior71ny Says:

May 30, 2012 - they did what they couldnt do to save her but she was to sick and she wanna to died in this case

Kathrina Auer Says:

May 30, 2012 - Despite my confusing choice of words, I was including most Penticostal divisions practicing exorcisms in that statement. I know her death wasn't caused by her exorcism, I was just adding (on a off Aneliese topic) as a side note what has taken place in other exorcisms, as it's not something the majority of people (I feel) have much knowledge on.

Kathrina Auer Says:

May 31, 2012 - We better defining As for the tapes - had the exorcism been successful, she lived & the tapes released much later - I'm sure many people would have had qualms about there legitimacy as it was her death that brought about publicity to a 'some what' contained case. Exposing details of the case & setting it in stone (just my view).I've got to say, I don't believe in absolution by any man or woman. You can pray for them, but I don'tieve any one but God has the power to absolve.

Kathrina Auer Says:

May 31, 2012 - Ignore the irst part of that sentence.