Google I/O 2011: Accelerated Android Rendering

sk8rked Says:

Nov 1, 2011 - Wrong. The iPhone 3G was soooo shit on iOS 4, without any apps running, it felt like 5 fps. Please go troll somewhere else.

riknos3289 Says:

Nov 1, 2011 - Fortunately Ice Cream Sandwich is supposed to fix this for us. About time!

JayBomb999 Says:

Nov 1, 2011 - Ice Cream Sandwich looks fantastic in my opinion and I will be among the first in line to get the Galaxy Nexus.The only thing bad I can say about Android 4.0 so far, is that it leaves very little for assholes like me to complain about. ;-)

Grahamaan27 Says:

Nov 28, 2011 - @TheVNeto why do you think updates for androids take so long already? this is nothing new, every phone already needed their own tweaks based on hardware.

eff2poynt8 Says:

Dec 1, 2011 - Hate to say this but these two guys probably need to be looking for jobs elsewhere if they cant seem to fix this

AndyTurfer Says:

Dec 2, 2011 - Google Galaxy Nexus - ICS 4.0.1 - scrolling still not buttery smooth. It's nearly 2012!! I request that the title of this video be changed to 'Lack of Accelerated Android Rendering'. Google are simply unable to get it right (yet numerous other companies have). Scrolling on the Galaxy Nexus is jittery and not consistently fluid (although the transition effects are much better and smooth). Google just don't know scrolling.

AndyTurfer Says:

Dec 2, 2011 - @TheVNeto I see a pattern emerging here, and am stunned these corporations cannot. HTC: no HW acceleration for basic UI, falling sales and financial difficulties. Samsung: HW acceleration for 'most' (but not all) standard apps (email, browser etc), sells more Android handsets that anyone else. Anyone else see the pattern?

AndyTurfer Says:

Dec 2, 2011 - @TheVNeto I see a pattern emerging here, and am stunned these corporations cannot: HTC: no HW acceleration for basic UI, falling sales and financial difficulties. Samsung: HW acceleration for 'most' (but not all) standard apps (email, browser etc), sells more Android handsets that anyone else. Anyone else see the pattern?

AndyTurfer Says:

Dec 2, 2011 - @TheVNeto As the sad owner of a Galaxy Nexus running ICS 4.0.1, I can confirm that while things are better (i.e. transitions), scrolling still suffers and is not buttery smooth and fluid.

AndyTurfer Says:

Dec 2, 2011 - I fully agree with you on everything except one point - ICS hasn't "fully" addressed this issue! Galaxy Nexus is much better, but the 'stuttering' and 'jitteriness' when panning around a web page is still very much alive. It's an awful experience, and if you're sensitive to fluidness (or lack thereof), then I suggest you think very carefully before buying a Galaxy Nexus.

AndyTurfer Says:

Dec 2, 2011 - If only that were true :(. I have a Galaxy Nexus and am extremely disappointed. Scrolling is NOT buttery smooth. It's better, but the jitters are still there. I might try and make one of those 'But Does it Blend?' videos to try and recoup the money I paid for this overpriced junk.

JayBomb999 Says:

Dec 2, 2011 - Woah. I don't doubt your dissatisfaction with ICS and the GNexus, however, your experience seems to contradict the vast majority of reviews and hands-on demos I've seen. Can you elaborate a bit? Perhaps provide a video demonstration of the issues you are seeing? I am very sensitive and easily annoyed by lag and stuttering. However, I have not seen or read anything to indicate that your experience is normal. Certainly not warranting your level of vitriol.

AndyTurfer Says:

Dec 4, 2011 - I just released this: v=KLAizRc2Iuc. I'll release more in the next few days (comparing third-party apps like Engadget, the default SMS application etc). While ICS is an improvement, it's definitely not the answer. The problem still exists. The problem is the problem itself is very difficult to explain, and in my video I don't believe the camera used has a high enough frame-rate to really demonstrate the issue.

eff2poynt8 Says:

Dec 5, 2011 - @jaybomb... Have u ever seen the iPhone or any windows 7 phone? The graphical difference is night and day. I love android I own an EVO and prime tablet. Button line is that this is serious problem and these two guys can't seem to fix. There are several blogs out there that discuss this (search daring fireball)

eff2poynt8 Says:

Dec 5, 2011 - Edit I own an og transformer tablet. My main reason for Not upgrading to the prime US because even with four cores the scrolling lag is still present. Destroys the more horsepower will fix it argument

JayBomb999 Says:

Dec 17, 2011 - I just bought the Galaxy Nexus. Coming from the Nexus One, it is definitely an improved experience all around, but...UI Lag is still there. Pinch to zoom in the browser, Gallery or especially Maps stutters, pauses and often just completely fails. The browser scrolling has improved but still, frustratingly, it sputters and lags (without Flash). All other apps are no different. Their responsiveness sucks as much as ever. Scrolling in menus and Music is perfect though. I'm disappointed. Again.

AndyTurfer Says:

Dec 21, 2011 - I did try warning you, and I share your frustration :(. Fool me once Google, shame on you. Fool me six times, shame on me!Have you upgraded to 4.0.3 to see if that improves things? I was so frustrated with my Galaxy Nexus that I sold it and bought a £200 Windows Mango handset (which is like a breath of fresh air, I have to admit). I simply cannot tolerate basic UI glitchiness in a £520 handset.

cowkmetyiu Says:

Dec 22, 2011 - Samsung enabled HW acceleration for its handsets (i.e. phones not tablet e.g. Galaxy S..). OMG I understood why Galaxy S is damn smooth..

JayBomb999 Says:

Dec 23, 2011 - Yes, you warned me. :) Still, I'm pretty happy with the GNex. I have not upgraded to 4.0.3, but I seriously doubt it will resolve the issues I detailed.While I think Win7 phones and iOS are definitively smoother, there are many reasons I will continue to choose Android. I won't bore anyone with this list. A buttery smooth UI is but one bullet point to be weighed against others. With that said, I expect better from Google. This is NOT impossible & should get the highest priority.

chrischoy9 Says:

Dec 30, 2011 - Even my first iPod touch with single core 412MHz processor didn't lag when browsing.My second android phone is coming BTW and it's a galaxy s!! not lag at all

zarjesve2 Says:

Jan 4, 2012 - I do not understand this at at 34m20s this young guy say "you have a listview and you enable the hardware layer and user starts calling the list on every frame of this callAnimation, we will redraw the list into the hardware layer and than we will draw the hardware layer onscreen, so we will be doing twice the amount of work." why would Android redraw everything in hardware layer when user scrool listview?this is uber stupid - or I do not understand it!@TopComments same as M$ in 90's ;)

octaviocurti922 Says:

Jan 16, 2012 - This is a very "brief" video. =p

chrischoy9 Says:

Feb 5, 2012 - Galaxy S's web browser is hardware accelerated.

hagenhh1 Says:

Mar 6, 2012 - very interesting video.

AndyTurfer Says:

Apr 16, 2012 - 2012, HTC One X, quad-core CPU, and Android STILL LAGS!!! goo dot gl / 2TEh3