Chomsky - Perle Debate - Part 16

SecretTrollAccount1 Says:

Jun 21, 2009 - study if you have so much free time on your hands, and if you geniunely care about settlement rights, persecution and the like history of the sudentland Germans, and ask yourself why they were ethnicly cleansed and Americans who were involved did nothing.Israel has to determin itself, American intelectuals are part of the problem.

SecretTrollAccount1 Says:

Jun 21, 2009 - scrub that, American Kikes are part of the problem.

SecretTrollAccount1 Says:

Jun 21, 2009 - Zionist = Nazi?You need to go back into your closet and hide from the real world that you clearly cannot understand. Zionism is a totaly Jewish idea, Zionists will approach any party for support to furfill the desire of creating, maintaing a Jewish state of Israel. It remains the only settlement of the Jewish question that results in non persecution of Jews.The Israel today is unpopular due to location. That and uneducated scum who want the world to bend to thier demands.

gjsterp Says:

Jun 22, 2009 - Didn't the Nazis want to create a German State?A German state or a Jewish state, it all boils down to the same thing. One race in or in control and all others out.It all sounds like Nazism to me.So Yes, Zionist = Nazism...

gjsterp Says:

Jun 22, 2009 - SecretTroll...:Search google zionism-israel + timeline, and see just how long the Jews owned the area they call Israel. The Italians had control of the area longer than the Jews, as did the Muslims. How is it that Jews can claim this land they owned for such a short time as their own.Because their Book tells them that God promised this land to them?PURE HorseSHIT!

SecretTrollAccount1 Says:

Jun 22, 2009 - The germans or nazi's reclaimed land that had belonged to them, and the war was brought on by Poland and the allies.Zionists want to CREATE a state.I dont believe in Bibles etc so its not my problem. Jews can settle in Greenland for all I care.

TBlake34 Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - Yep, that's what makes me unable to fully support Israel (despite their obvious social superiority).If we took a single year of our defense budget, $680 billion, we could literally build an Israel anywhere we wanted. We have a shitton of basically open area in the USA. If we put the Jewish state somewhere in the US, maybe on the Gulf Coast, Israel would be safe and it would be a huge economic boon.Why not? Old book says they need THAT desert.

gjsterp Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - TBlake34: They already have a state in the US.It's called New York City.They also own enough of Hollywood...But, if they want some of the desert that the indians don't want, they are welcome to it.

hrmIwonder Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - To describe what Chomsky did to Perle, I think the word is Pwned.

Dalambam Says:

Nov 30, 2009 - What about 'lynching'? lol

doston1 Says:

Feb 19, 2010 - Because we have to have them in place for the second coming. Like Bill Maher said while clapping: "Places!! Where are my Jews! Places!!" You can't just go moving them all over, we need them destroyed there. Per biblical prophecy! Places!! Where are my Jews! Places everyone!

doston1 Says:

Feb 19, 2010 - What is with that worthless bell? lol

D0g63rt Says:

Feb 20, 2010 - I will defend to the death the right of the indigenous people's of Greenland's right to exist as a nation free from foreign aggression!

SecretTrollAccount1 Says:

Feb 21, 2010 - Vikings founded Greenland.Finders keepers.

voltairian3 Says:

Apr 19, 2010 - That bell going off in the background indicates every time Perle is totally obliterated by Chomsky

skegnetty Says:

Jun 18, 2011 - Interesting, the sycophancy of some towards Chomsky here - Perle was basically not permitted to speak, with Chomsky (true to form) hijacking the discussion in his usual style - suffocating people with an input flood of decontextualised, spliced and blow-dried quotes/stats from dubious sources, semantic convolution and monotonous piety. Seems very convincing to easily over-awed pseudo-intellectuals, many of whom could be heard guffawing with feigned amusement in the background.

SkyGuySunny Says:

Jul 11, 2011 - Excellent example of the kind of comment someone would make when the debater apologetic to his worldview gets dominated by the opponent by any intellectual or scholastic standard imaginable. It's easy for someone without the intelligence and/or will to grasp a certain thesis to dismiss academic superiority as suffocation (implying people are too stupid to follow a sustained argument) and "blow dried quotes" and statistics, as if documentation is irrelevant to making a point.

Rogercopythat1 Says:

Oct 4, 2011 - Owned!!!

skegnetty Says:

Dec 4, 2011 - What does 'academic superiority and intellectual/scholastic dominance' actually mean - that he speaks the truth? Such a condescending fawning towards Chomsky and the academic bubble he inhabits (has he ever been to Vietnam/Somalia/Iraq, for example?) encapsulates the reason why his opinions resonate as much among the 'normal' population as the beliefs of, say, the Church Of Scientology or the Branch Davidians.

skegnetty Says:

Dec 4, 2011 - If his conspiratorial arguments had any genuine political credentials, he would have stood for office long ago. Alas though, his 'beliefs' have as much authority and popular support as David Irving's anti-holocaust ramblings.

skegnetty Says:

Dec 4, 2011 - As regards this particular debate, Perle is a laid back political dinosaur/oaf and was the wrong person to be selected; someone of Christopher Hitchen's ilk would have challenged Chomsky's autistic digressions appropriately. Without doubt, Chomsky is supremely intelligent, but then again, many other dysfunctional nutjobs throughout history were too. That does not mean they have a monopoly on the truth - to believe so is irresponsible and dangerous in the extreme.

zzzzzz2408 Says:

Jan 9, 2012 - Perle was impressed. So was I.

Meibukan Says:

Feb 27, 2012 - "flood of decontextualised, spliced and blow-dried quotes/stats from dubious sources" - Have you ever looked into Chomsky's sources? For example, the sources he cites (and encourages you to look at yourself) in this debate?

cookieman38111 Says:

Mar 2, 2012 - If that were so, it would be going off constantly!

MrRedcarpet02 Says:

Apr 19, 2012 - Hitch made arguments after 9/11 that were discredited before he started to espouse them. Why you would think he'd somehow 'beat' Chomsky is beyond me.