Prof Noam Chomsky - On the Cold War

jumpnjza2 Says:

Apr 1, 2012 - Fuck off Chomsky. Anti-Soviet douche. 

420DRo420ful Says:

Apr 2, 2012 - Sometimes it aint the school's fault, if you catch me. Problem's that most americans'r lazy pussies anyway who'r too dumb to believe anything but the 'gov't approved' truth.

RECurseTO Says:

Apr 20, 2012 - I think he is missing the point. Government makes decisions and gives money anyway. The difference is that is USA there is a competition for government tenders, while is USSR there was not.

RECurseTO Says:

Apr 20, 2012 - I think he is missing some points.Government makes decisions and gives money anyway. The difference is that is USA there is a competition for government tenders, while is USSR there was not.Rich don't need tax money that are spent on military. They make enough through corporations, they want less tax.

voronge Says:

Apr 26, 2012 - 5:11 haha chomsky's dry dry dry sense of humour :)

444damn Says:

Apr 30, 2012 - are you suggesting the government/elites are paying chomsky to create the facade of a legitimate opposition?

euroqusling Says:

May 12, 2012 - google chomsky lies

euroqusling Says:

May 12, 2012 - no, you mislearned the history. Chomsky is full of shit. I've read "Manufacturing Consent". but unlike you probably I have lived under Soviet system and can testify that every single claim Chomsky put there is a lie.

dim90 Says:

May 17, 2012 - Care to elaborate?

euroqusling Says:

May 17, 2012 - e.g. when he offhandedly labelled national partisan groups in Central Europe as "armies established by Hitler". They were not, they were merely partisans that disliked their countries being ruled from Moscow just as much as they disliked being ruled by Nazies from Berlin. (Chomsky's lucky not to have been in a room together with some of such partisans, he'd probably not get out of room alive).Or his coverup of Cambodya genocide. Or attributing start of Cold War to US (an egregious lie).

euroqusling Says:

May 17, 2012 - if anything, for ridiculing opposition by associating it with being completely bonkers.

gulbirk Says:

May 21, 2012 - If capitalism won the cold war then wouldnt all countries have joined the global capitalist system voluntarily? Why would we see the rise of socialism in South America when democracy was introduced? (Chaves, Correa, Evo Morales, Allende etc). Why would the corporate governments of hyper capitalist nations such as chile (under Pinochette), Indonesia and Singapoore have to supress their people to sustain capitalism?

AneTix101 Says:

May 21, 2012 - "We have to prevent radical nationalism, or independence"

AccumulatedKnowledge Says:

May 22, 2012 - Simple. Democracy encourages the voters to vote themselves money, which leads to welfare statism. Don't think that just because something is decided upon by a democratic vote that it is therefore right and just.

gulbirk Says:

May 23, 2012 - If people cared about their own money then why wouldnt they vote right winged instead? Why would people vote for parties that increase taxes and divide the wealth amoung everyone if they simply cared about themselfes? No, its much better to close down democracy and let you decide how every government is going to be organised. You know, libertarianism and right winged anarchism is just alternative versions of fascism.

AccumulatedKnowledge Says:

May 23, 2012 - Lol I can tell this is going to be fun. So, pray tell how exactly is libertarianism an alternate version of fascism?Now, people are indeed raising taxes...on the rich. In my country, more than half of the population does not pay any income tax. At the same time, more money is being spent on these programs than the government actually has, so we are in chronic debt. Look up Public Choice-that'll answer any remaining questions you should have.

AccumulatedKnowledge Says:

May 23, 2012 - But keep in mind the alternative to democracy is not tyranny. That's what the government would like you to think

gulbirk Says:

May 23, 2012 - Part 1:And exactly what country do you happen to live in? Its already well documented that the high ranking countries of almost all indexed releated to living standards happen to be those with high tax levels and social democratic systems. Secondly, libertarianism is fascism by the rich. Its a society where one group of people (making up less then a percent) gets to decide the very foundation of society, and other people are left out. Let me summarise exactly what you are saying when you argue

gulbirk Says:

May 23, 2012 - Part2: against democracy. AK: Democracy is not fair, society should be ruled the way my ideology says. It sounds like fascism to me.

AccumulatedKnowledge Says:

May 23, 2012 - Lol guess we don't know what fascism is, nor do we know that just because we don't want the rule of the many doesn't necessarily mean we want the rule by the few.Yes, let's let me summarize what I am saying so that you don't have to resort to these cheap straw men. I think that the state is an unnecessary entity, and that people should be allowed to organize as they wish while not violating the individual rights of others who do not agree. In a nutshell. Obviously its more complicated than that

AccumulatedKnowledge Says:

May 23, 2012 - But I live in the United States, home to the highest corporate tax rate in the world. And please, correlation does not equate with causation. I trust you're not that much of a fool.

gulbirk Says:

May 23, 2012 - Yes, so you want to abolish democracy in favour of setting up an economic system of your choice. Fascism. Because you want to rule out everyone elses rights to organise the way they want. If someone were to create a state, would you denide them the right? And if they had done this, could people born in that state demand its abolishment? I say no, because no one is forcing them to participate in it.

AccumulatedKnowledge Says:

May 23, 2012 - LMAO you must really not know what the definition of fascism is. But you are forcing us to pay for anything you decide and any laws that you decide to create, whether we participate or not. The irony is that this matches perfectly with the grossly incorrect definition of fascism you made up.

AccumulatedKnowledge Says:

May 23, 2012 - I think you're listening skills need to be honed some more. You write:"you want to rule out everyone elses rights to organise the way they want."I wrote:"people should be allowed to organize as they wish while not violating the individual rights of others who do not agree"Awkward

2787mh Says:

May 24, 2012 - If we were more self-interested a capitalist world would not be possible. Capitalism sows the seeds of its own destruction.