Contempt for Fat People

FatHeadMovie Says:

Jun 29, 2010 - The visceral fat is indeed associated with more health issues. Whether it's a cause or a symptom of those issues isn't entirely clear. But many people are also what Dr. Mary Vernon calls normal weight but metabolically obese; they have the damage going on, but not the weight gain.

kindAhumaNbeinG Says:

Jul 12, 2010 - ... thank you ...

Dipstikk Says:

Dec 7, 2010 - "WHAT is he making up?""Comment removed."HAHAHAHAHA!

rockstarofredondo Says:

Dec 20, 2010 - Fear of desire=Christian brainwashing.

techbeast34 Says:

Jun 19, 2011 - @iamdisplacedlilak Did you lose Brain Tissue too? Because you misspelled quite a lot of words there...

techbeast34 Says:

Jun 19, 2011 - @wander099 If junk food is so bad, filled with sugar, then how would re-arranged sugar molecules help at all? Your going on a diet of vegetables probably, and vegetables don't have carbohydrates, so I can truthfully say that what ever you are saying about this diet, is complete bullshit. This diet is solely consisted of veggies and protein, and it has worked.

BobHop77 Says:

Jul 11, 2011 - The way I see it, this movie makes a dangerous amalgam of overweight people and obese people, and focuses on pseudo-scientific details while overlooking simple common sense.Just like anorexic people put their life in danger, so do obese people ; there's no way around that. Our body isn't made to handle that much fat or that much weight ! Fat does clutter your veins and organs, weight does stress your hips and knees. Obesity isn't a choice of lifestyle, it goes further than "fatty or not ?" !

FatHeadMovie Says:

Jul 11, 2011 - Please explain which parts of the video are based on pseudo-science instead of actual science.

BobHop77 Says:

Jul 11, 2011 - This man speaks a lot about his topic of research but what scientific backup has he got ? His speech consists in connecting facts without specific proof, making it look like it's true.Fat people used to be respected centuries ago because they were wealthy, not healthy. Heavy people who do sports can be healthier than thin people who never exercise, but *obese* people have a muscle/fat ratio that keeps them from doing sports. I would go on but YouTube's comments are too short. :)

FatHeadMovie Says:

Jul 11, 2011 - If you're actually interested in the science, you can read his book "Fat Politics" and follow the references he provides. In an un-scientific but amusing example, Penn & Teller had three obese obese guys and a normal-weight guy compete in several track and field events. The normal-weight guy came in last in most of them, didn't win any. Out of shape is out of shape, no matter what size you are.

BobHop77 Says:

Jul 11, 2011 - That's true, but it doesn't work for *all* obese people. The same goes for that forensic guy he knows, who autopsied *some* obese corpses and found a healthy heart inside. It's great but it's far from common ! What's common is that people who are too fat have much lesser chances of living a long AND healthy life. I'm not "anti-fat" at all, I just think it's dangerous to try and convince obese people that they're perfectly fine. No need to be ashamed but they have to be realistic...

FatHeadMovie Says:

Jul 11, 2011 - The forensic guy found that cholesterol levels weren't associate with heart attacks. Obesity is associated with heart disease. You probably haven't seen the whole film, but the point I made is that the real threat to health is high blood sugar.  The association between obesity and lousy health exists because chronically high blood sugar also makes many people fat, but not all; meanwhile, lots of people have high blood sugar but aren't fat.

BobHop77 Says:

Jul 12, 2011 - See, this is the awkward feeling I get with this movie (well, the parts I've seen). The ultimate point should be : "too much (fat/sugar-saturated) food causes obesity which causes serious health problems". Of course there are many other sources of disease ; of course not all thin people are healthy ; of course food isn't the only factor for obesity. But the correlation between food and obesity IS the problem in a large majority of cases, and so is it between obesity and disease.

FatHeadMovie Says:

Jul 12, 2011 - Saturated fat has nothing to do with it and never did. Even the former anti-fat hysterics at Harvard's nutrition department have finally come out and said the focus on fat was misguided; it was too many carbohydrates -- especially sugars and white flours -- all along. The correlation isn't between food and obesity; the correlation is between the wrong foods and bad health. Obesity is a symptom of bad health, not the cause of it.

BobHop77 Says:

Jul 13, 2011 - Obesity is a cycle of symptoms becoming causes. When you're too fat your knees end up ruined, preventing you from doing the physical exercise that would help being in good health, making you a little more obese, keeping you a little more from healthy activities, etc. Besides, fat in our body is nothing more than stocks of sugar, and sugar in our body is a potential stock of fat. Our pancreas and liver deal with that everyday, and bad food is a good way to destroy them eventually.

FatHeadMovie Says:

Jul 14, 2011 - Yes, when obesity reaches a certain level, it can accelerate the negative effects. But everything associated with obesity -- diabetes, heart disease, cancer, etc. -- also occurs among thin people. So we're mostly looking at a symptom, not the root cause.

BobHop77 Says:

Jul 15, 2011 - So, to sum it up : because so many diseases aren't caused by obesity, obese people shouldn't question themselves. Similarly : you can have cancer without smoking while *some* people smoke all their life without ever having cancer, so why make such a fuss about smoking and its consequences on health ? Who cares if it has the potential of making every single health problem much worse ? :) Yes, bad food is the main cause of obesity. And yes, most obese people eat bad food a lot more.

FatHeadMovie Says:

Jul 15, 2011 - Putting words in other people's mouths is pretty weak, don't you think? Smoking, really? No, to sum up (which I hesitate to do, since you're obviously one of those types who will argue endlessly over practically nothing): High blood sugar causes many diseases, so EVERYONE should avoid high blood sugar, skinny or fat. Focusing on fat people is focusing on a symptom, not the cause. Lots of skinny people are diseased, lots of fat people aren't.

BobHop77 Says:

Jul 15, 2011 - Sorry if I offended you. I was just applying your idea to another issue in public health. When obesity is so bad for health, to pinpoint another, seemingly larger health issue doesn't make the first one disappear, don't you agree ? Too much fat clutters your liver > liver can't filter your blood properly > you get high blood sugar. Some thin people are *born* with type-1 diabetes ; most obese people *cause* type-2 diabetes with bad food. Fat and sugar are connected, like it or not.

nicknem8 Says:

Jul 15, 2011 - 90% of the Fat Head documentary is correct, but this guy is completely full of it. A minority of people are genetically lucky and weight doesn't affect heart health, but for most people the correlation is clear. Starvation mode is also a complete myth. There is NO evidence to support starvation mode and plenty of studies contradict the myth that it exists.Citation: British Journal of Nutrition 1994; 71:437-447.By the way, BJN is a peer reviewed, scientific journal.

FatHeadMovie Says:

Jul 15, 2011 - I'm really not interested in continuing a pointless discussion. If you prefer to believe body fat causes high blood sugar instead of the other way around, enjoy your beliefs.

FatHeadMovie Says:

Jul 15, 2011 - Correlations don't prove causation. The correlation between obesity and disease exists because they both have the same cause -- elevated blood sugar. Plenty of thin people develop the same diseases (we have two skinny type 2 diabetics in my family) and plenty of fat people don't.

kakashidemon321 Says:

Jul 16, 2011 - I have a question!! You don't have to answer, but I'd be appreciated if you did. :) If you step on a scale and see a weight gain of about 5-10 lb, does it really mean you're becoming fatter? Because if I see that, and I look at myself in the mirror, it doesn't seem like I've gained anything. Same way backwards. If I lose 5-10 lb it doesn't look like it. I want to know if there is anyway I can make my abdomin fit without losing too much weight in lb Please answer, thanks! :D

kakashidemon321 Says:

Jul 16, 2011 - It'd* be appreciated, of course. :P

FatHeadMovie Says:

Jul 17, 2011 - It doesn't necessarily mean you've gotten fatter. You could've gained muscle, retained some water, etc.