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BigEnos001 Says:

May 28, 2012 - Does that automatically make everything he said true and every interpretation of his views valid?

thomas lewis Says:

May 28, 2012 - do a quick google search of carrol quigley. he was one of the most influential historians of our time

BigEnos001 Says:

May 28, 2012 - Yes you already said that and I have. I was wondering what you are actively doing to "fight back"?

thomas lewis Says:

May 28, 2012 - you can read tragedy and hope online for free. just google "tragedy and hope pdf". i am confused as to the purpose behind your question though. the activities that i engage wouldn't be relevant to the substance of topic, correct? if you are a smart and active member of society, why would you need to feel interested in the activities i am involved in through my daily life.to answer you're question though, i do my best to guide people in a direction that will educated them about these topics

BigEnos001 Says:

May 29, 2012 - It is relevant as to how your views are perceived. If you don't mind, fair enough, but motivations-wise there's quite a difference between someone with the conviction to 'put their money where their mouth is' when it comes to the crunch and someone who just spouts off on youtube to get a reaction. My question was really about which are you, because from youtube comments alone it's impossible to say.The Vatican scandals are also relevant because you were advocating an alternative to secularism.

BigEnos001 Says:

May 29, 2012 - Have you heard of the authors W. Cleon Skousen, Gary Allen, Jim Marrs, Pat Robertson, Phyllis Schlafly, Edward Griffin? They all cited/publicised Quigley's claims from 'Tradegy and Hope' and I was wondering what you thought of their respective interpretations.Anyway, I think I might read the book to gauge it for myself, being careful to avoid one of the many abridged/doctored versions, but the unabridged original as I assume you have. Was there anything about the book you didn't like?

thomas lewis Says:

May 29, 2012 - I've heard of Griffin. I think his most interesting account is when he interviews Norman Dodd. , the head of the Reece Committee, a Congressional Investigation into Tax Exempt Foundations. I am not too fond of Jim Marrs, as I find he twists things out of context, similar to Alex Jones. Alex has some very credible guests, like Paul Craig Roberts, but he personally is a very deranged man. Once you do some further research on Quigley's career,you will reasonably be inclined to read his material

thomas lewis Says:

May 29, 2012 - The only thing that I did not like about Carrol Quigley's book was that it is written like a history book, and is not reader friendly. I don't think he was concerned with this though as he didn't intend for it to receive the publicity it did. I think they had issues publishing it initially because of this. It has been a few years since I read it. The most interesting part is how he explains the evolution of civilizations. After reading the book,you are lightly educated in all world affairs

thomas lewis Says:

May 29, 2012 - No, but I'm going by his credentials, and his acclaim in the academic world. The Bill Clinton reference also adds credence to his message, so it's hard not to take what his book says at face value. Read it, his classes were considered by most undergraduates at Georgetown to be life changing and the most important they were enrolled in at the university. Again, this is a man who attained a Phd from Harvard, and taught at Princeton, referenced by Bill Clinton when he first launched his campaign

BigEnos001 Says:

May 29, 2012 - Yes, I saw something about this Jim Marrs fella joining up various disparate dots into one overarching conspiracy (which is among the things I have seen that Quigley totally refuted that he ever suggested) including aliens in the guise of Sumerian gods or something. If that is the case, I'd suggest that he also seemed to be in a foil hat brigade type of deranged state. The only Alex Jones I can previously recall is a pretty Welsh female BBC presenter, so I assume you mean a different one ;-).

BigEnos001 Says:

May 29, 2012 - He apparently wasn't too keen on Skousen's and Allen's interpretations of his book either and I've seen various criticisms of others citing isolated paragraphs while omitting leading or closing sentences, thereby totally changing the context of the passage. It all sounds very familiar, not only confirmation bias, but intentional obfuscation. Ray Comfort would approve. Anyway, you've piqued my interest and I wonder how similar our interpretations may be considering our differing beliefs.

thomas lewis Says:

May 29, 2012 - Well I'm certainly not as educated or articulate as you, but I was able to get through the book with a good understanding of the material. It wasn't easy though. I know I am biased when i say this, but I feel this is one of the most important book in the world. It covers every aspect of society.I learned that the word "bank" originated from a shore bank, like a dock yard, because goods would always arrive at banks, and thus banking institutions would naturally station themselves on shorelines

thomas lewis Says:

May 29, 2012 - No, Alex Jones is an eccentric southern american conspiracy theorist radio personality. He is known for his radical beliefs, pro gun rights support, belief in the constitution etc. He is very loud and eccentric and his videos on youtube are for very radical. His guests always made me listen to his shows though. he has some seriously credible people on there, but I try not to listen to him because he just gets on my nerves lol. if you'll know what I mean immediately if you ever look him up..

thomas lewis Says:

May 29, 2012 - I'm have my own beliefs, and that is all. I support organized religions at their core, but not what they have been warped into. They tend to be used as a means to control the masses, and also attract social deviants because they can hide behind their crimes using it as a moral shield. This still doesn't take away from their use to humanity. They can help people unite, and give people a higher moral purpose, something greater to live for other than food, sex, conflict, and death

0vershade Says:

May 29, 2012 - "Now prove how God is imaginary??"Some people believe there's a god in heaven that watches them. There is no evidence for such a thing. Therefore "god " is imaginary. Simple.And that story has been repeating over and over again: Zeus, Thor, Allah, Yahweh, JBOTTSIOWA's reason, Tooth Fairy etc, they're all imaginary. Not real!"wow you are dumber than I thought!!" - That doesn't trouble me, given that you don't think much.

0vershade Says:

May 29, 2012 - "They can [] give people a higher moral purpose" - Yet that purpose is a delusional one. Isn't a REAL purpose better than an imaginary one? Why not make our own goals in life instead of taking what men in funny dresses give us?

JBOTTSIOWA Says:

May 29, 2012 - Prove he isn't imaginary, your one stupid fucker aren't you? Trying to sound all smart with that redneck education lol! There is no reason for you to jump all over my nuts about this topic, learn well kid! Have you ever been to Antarctica? NO! So by your supreme wisdom it must be imaginary,see how stupid that sounds? Idiots like you are a dime a dozen! BTW the 'Gods" you mentioned above could have been ancient aliens that were misinterpreted,but I doubt you have the brainpower to think that far!

JBOTTSIOWA Says:

May 29, 2012 - Do us all a favor and stop commenting! Or go argue with some elementary kids that are on your intelligence level

Warmech Says:

May 29, 2012 - we'll miss you pluto

Warmech Says:

May 29, 2012 - Asteroids bring the building blocks of life to planets. All of earth is inhabitable, just not to humans. species need to become extinct to make way for greater more adaptable species, cancer is a form of death therefore a form of life, the black plague was small organisms fighting to live, the sun must die so a new star can be born, if there was no old age we would all be destroyed by overpopulation and every disease is another organism fighting for its existence. Its all life, my friend.

BigEnos001 Says:

May 29, 2012 - Cancer isn't itself a form of life because it isn't alive. It isn't an organism, it's a genetic error that results in unregulated cell reproduction that can cause the growth of malignant tumors which invade other parts of the body, interfering with normal cellular functions.

misinglink15 Says:

May 29, 2012 - How the $%#$% did a cooking show magically beat tdarnell in the contest? Youtube, I'm on to you....

thedriver500 Says:

May 30, 2012 - Of course.. That wasn't the point. What I was saying is RELIGIOUS people have said and seem to think, that the universe is perfectly created for HUMAN life by god. For HUMANS to live. I say nothing was ever created for any one purpose, specially god's little self-righteous people..