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Title: Steve Jobs Dead at 56
Added: Oct 5, 2011
Author: TheYoungTurks
Duration: 3:0
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Apple Inc co-founder, chairman and former CEO Steve Jobs died Wednesday. The Young Turks discuss.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/business/steve-jobs-of-apple-dies-at-56.htmlThe Young Turks on Current TV: http://current.com/shows/the-young-turks/The Largest Online New Show in the World.Google+: http://www.gplus.to/TheYoungTurksFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/tytnationTwitter: http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=theyoungturksSupport TYT for FREE: http://bit.ly/eWuu5i
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sc0pl355 Says:
Nov 23, 2011 - 2) None of the benchmarks show clockspeed, doofus. They show performance. the tests that you showed are intended to measure Java and web browser performance, not hardware performance.3) And? It's not a businesses job to be charitable. How much did you give to charity?"Like DTE with stability"Dell's DTE has been higher than Apple's for a very long time. They have been stable for DECADES while Apple of the time was on the verge of bankruptcy, despite having a lower DTE.
Saaduk92 Says:
Nov 23, 2011 - @sc0pl3552) Hence why I wrote "this goes back to" as I'd mentioned that beforehand. You're also being disingenuous (or wilfully ignorant) by implying that GPU performance benchmarks aren't linked to their OS', yet CPU performance benchmarks are.3) No, but it says a lot about them, even if it's only for their image, as mentioned before.DTE dictates long-term stability. Higher DTE doesn't automate to "will go out of business". That's an incredibly simple way of looking at it.
sc0pl355 Says:
Nov 24, 2011 - 2) The javascript and browserware bechmarks are not really linked to CPU perfomance. They are not CPU benchmarks like Geekbench or other cpu benchmarking tools.3) Crowing about stuff like that says more. It says that the company is trying to get attention."DTE dictates long-term stability."You tried to say that DTE was a good method of measuring their stability at the time, not long term. It is not a good indicator of performance.
Saaduk92 Says:
Nov 24, 2011 - @sc0pl3552) I agree in the sense that it's not as precise as benchmarking on the likes of desktop computers, but it's all we have to go by (for now, any way).3) You don't need to advertise it to let people know. If anyone wants to be aware of it (or is made aware of it by someone else) then it's not very hard to discover.Being dependent on long-term debt implies it's for measuring long-term stability. It can spike, though the trend is a good indicator on a survival basis.
sc0pl355 Says:
Nov 25, 2011 - 2) That's shaky ground to go by.3) It is not their obligation to make it known.Whatever dude. I'm really tired of this debate.
Saaduk92 Says:
Nov 26, 2011 - @sc0pl3552) Same goes for GPU benchmarks, but neither should stop us from using those for comparison(should they?).3) As mentioned before, they don't need to. Unless it's insignificant it can be found quite easily.
sc0pl355 Says:
Nov 26, 2011 - 2) GPU benchmarks are better than browser benchmarks. At least you can tell whether or not the graphical hardware is powerful or not. Browser benchmarks can only tell you how well a browser meets certain standards at the end of the day.3) Dude, it could be billions of dollars in donations and you'd have no way of knowing unless they say something about it. What people and companies do with their money is their own information to divulge at their leisure for various security issues.
Saaduk92 Says:
Nov 27, 2011 - @sc0pl3552) Both are reflective of certain scenarios in certain situations. Claiming that one is more relevant then the other when they're both affected by the likes of the OS is silly.3) Unless it was millions of donations that quantified collectively in to billions, that's highly unlikely. Unless it was incredibly small any form of philanthropy would be quite easy to find. There's even organisations out there that keep track of things like this.
sc0pl355 Says:
Nov 27, 2011 - 2) Yeah, one is reflective of hardware performance (GPU) while the other is reflective of software performance (browser and Java compatibility). OS and software have a much larger effect on the latter than the former. End of line.3) No, any entity can make a donation of any size and you'd NEVER know unless they chose to make it known themselves."There's even organisations out there that keep track of things like this."They rely on donating parties to make their donations known.
Saaduk92 Says:
Nov 27, 2011 - @sc0pl3552) You're again being disingenuous by pretending that the GPU benchmarks are solely reflective of the GPU whilst the CPU benchmarks are conveniently only reflective of software. OpenGL is a software too, remember?3) The pretence that they're being secretive is nonsense. It's easy to find where they spend their money, even if they did try hard to find it. However, even then, it should stand to reason that they wouldn't - that would be deemed wasted money cutting in to profits.
sc0pl355 Says:
Nov 28, 2011 - 2) That's the thing, the GPU benchmarks were GPU benchmanrs. The browser and Java tests you cited are to test Browser and Java performace. That's why MY browsers all got different scores using those very same benchmarks. OpenGL is not only software, dude. It is a cross-platform API that interacts directly with hardware.3) Not pretence. They are a secretive company. This is well known and verifiable. "It's easy to find where they spend their money"Prove it.
Saaduk92 Says:
Nov 28, 2011 - @sc0pl3552) They were, but you're arguing that they were solely GPU benchmarks, whilst claiming that the CPU ones were only dependent on software. The distinction is that it's a case of both in both.3) washingtonpost . com/business/economy/record-thin-on-steve-jobss-philanthropy/2011/10/06/gIQA3YKKRL_story.htmlPhilanthropically, there's not much.
sc0pl355 Says:
Nov 28, 2011 - 2) Incorrect, I am saying that the OpenGL benchmarks were GPU benchmarks because that is what OpenGL is for. I am saying that the browser benchmarks are to measure browser performance and compatibility, not CPU performance. That's what I said.3) Read the fucking article. "The fact that he doesn't appear on lists of public giving "doesn't necessarily mean that he's not giving generously," said Adriene Davis of Indiana University's Center on Philanthropy, which tracks such gifts."
Saaduk92 Says:
Nov 29, 2011 - @sc0pl3552) Which is dependent on the CPU. (At least until they add in full-blown hardware acceleration.)3) Seeing as we're being childish;"His name is absent from the list of gifts of $1 million or more maintained by Indiana University's Center on Philanthropy.And It wasn't until after an unflattering media report about Jobs on the subject over the summer, that Apple in September initiated a "matching gifts" program"But hey, you were just being disingenuous, right?
sc0pl355 Says:
Nov 30, 2011 - 2) watch?v=rhu8zfIVZ40 3) Again "The fact that he doesn't appear on lists of public giving "**doesn't necessarily mean** that he's not giving generously," said Adriene Davis of **Indiana University's Center on Philanthropy**, which tracks such gifts."His name wouldn't be on it if he never gave his name.Apple joined Product (RED) in 2006, remember? I don't think Apple cares about what articles say. Thy have probably been planning the donation matching for quite some time.
TheBebelehaut Says:
Nov 30, 2011 - Biologically Muslim? ... Hmmmm... Err... Actually Pal, I do NOT get your point. *WICKED GRIN*
skeletorphd Says:
Dec 12, 2011 - Don't think of it as jobs died.He just went to sue god for making Apple trees.
MonkeyManWill Says:
Feb 16, 2012 - He died on my birthday...
ElnAlter Says:
Feb 24, 2012 - Saying Jobs might have donated billions to charity is like saying a lack of evidence of WMD in Iraq was not proof they didn't have WMD hidden in Iraq. He didn't donate because it was against his philosophy. Stop trying to make Jobs seem cuddly out of a misguided sense of idol worship and invented nostalgia.
TheOneAndOnlyNerd1 Says:
Mar 23, 2012 - Who cares? Apple is shit.
snowballhammie3244 Says:
May 16, 2012 - TheOneAndOnlyNerd1 what u say is wat u r
InzaynForZayn Says:
May 21, 2012 - God guys! He died, let him rest in peace and have some respect.
KarinMikazuki Says:
May 28, 2012 - It seems that Jobs*shades on*became the joblessYEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!












Saaduk92 Says:
Nov 23, 2011 - @sc0pl3552) This goes back to slower clock speeds showing up in said benchmarks. Not to mention that you're conveniently ignoring that the 4S has less ram and can achieve slower 3G speeds.3) I'm not a business.They might be defined as such but are easily available, hence why the "they're private" point is moot.- Different metrics show different things, moron. Like DTE with stability.- Nice contradiction in two sentences. Bravo. (One year isn't looking at the long term, genius!)