Falling Up-- Bittersweet

POPclogger216 Says:

Nov 10, 2011 - Okay, that's a little too far. Jesus willingly died because of ALL sinners (me, you, everybody included). 471002 is not the only 'stupid reason'.

linfang100 Says:

Nov 10, 2011 - yeah ur right! theres alotta stupid reasons :) but Jesus fixes that

POPclogger216 Says:

Nov 10, 2011 - The Bible is not just one big sermon to read in ___ hours and be done with. It does not preach about slavery, rape, death, all of that. It guides you through choices you make in life, and shows you what can (and will) happen whem you make them.On the slavery topic: Slavery was different then than it is now. It was not a means of racial discrimination, but a way to help pay off debt. Also, every seven years, there was a year of Jubilee, where every slave was set free.

POPclogger216 Says:

Nov 11, 2011 - How is it not 'Christ-like', as you say? In the book of Psalms, chapter 100, it says "SHOUT for joy to the Lord, all the earth.' In chapter 150-" Praise Him with the sound of trumpets..with the harp and lyre..with the tambourine..flute, cymbals." These instruments can get pretty loud, like rock music.The youth that look like 'drunks, sluts, and jerks', may have been alchoholics, or whatever else. They may be going to Church to help change that. Please don't judge someone that way.

DSOXBLADE Says:

Nov 12, 2011 - I'm not you retard.

POPclogger216 Says:

Nov 12, 2011 - Sure am feeling the Christ-like love here, being called a retard...

POPclogger216 Says:

Nov 12, 2011 - And it sure seems like you are. You're judging them as sluts, jerks, and alcholics by their looks. If you keep on talking about Christ-like, then you should know that Jesus and God both look at the heart, and not someone's outward appearance.

DSOXBLADE Says:

Nov 12, 2011 - Your a fucking idiot. The outside speaks for the inside.

POPclogger216 Says:

Nov 13, 2011 - That's only to man. It doesn't matter what you look like on the outside. Your deeds and actions will not save you form burning eternally in Hell. The only thing that matters to God (and since you preached on being Christ like, you should know this) is what's on the inside. The heart. The soul. He couldn't care less if you were an alcoholic, druggie, or the stopper of world hunger. Christ affects both the inside and outside, but it doesn't mean everybody will be perfect. God bless you.

DSOXBLADE Says:

Nov 13, 2011 - Wow you have no idea of the level of crap people have put you in. You also wont burn eternally in hell. Because that's not how it works. You also think it's ok to be however your want. And if you love God everything will be okay. Well your wrong. It does not work that way. God does not love everybody. A real christian want's to be like Jesus. not just say they love and wan't to go to Heaven. There's so much more to this life then you will ever understand.

POPclogger216 Says:

Nov 13, 2011 - Well then, how does it work? Where does somebody go when they die when they rejected God in their life?No. I do not think it's okay to be whoever you want. I'm sorry if it seemed like i was implying that. But, I WAS implying that it doesn't matter who you are/were when you accept Christ. Anybody can become a Christian. After they start a relationship with Him, He changes them on the inside. And that affects the outside. That doesn't mean they won't be perfect.

POPclogger216 Says:

Nov 13, 2011 - It means that they're trying their best to be like Jesus. 'There's so much more to this life than you'll ever understand.' applies to you too. And you're right, nobody will be able to fully understand everything in life. I'm just trying to find my opinions and guesses at as much as I can. They may not be correct or that well informed, but they're thing I can build on laterI have a question: Are you a Christian, or somebody debating about something you don't really believe in?

DSOXBLADE Says:

Nov 13, 2011 - I am a Christian. But I am having some problems with my life. But it does not mean I don't know the truth. And for you guessing and assuming, well lets just say It makes you look like a jack ass.

DSOXBLADE Says:

Nov 13, 2011 - The bottom part is true to some point. If you really become a christian. (If you know what I mean) And you do go to Hell but you don't stay there forever. Your soul burns up and that's, well, when you vanish forever. See this is a spirit world. There's your body then there's your spirit and then your soul. So there are spirits that affect your life in the body. Witch show what you have in you. Christ or the things of this world. Witch most of it are is the of Satan.

POPclogger216 Says:

Nov 13, 2011 - Okay. Thanks for answering.And, like I said, I can build, or change them. I've been raised Christian all my life, but it wasn't until a few years ago that I started really asking questions. And these are the answers I got. There are some things I'm a little iffy on, but I firmly believe what I've argued so far.

POPclogger216 Says:

Nov 13, 2011 - I sort of see what you're saying. But, how can you really become a Christian, yet still go to Hell? Sorry if that's a just a typo.

DSOXBLADE Says:

Nov 14, 2011 - Because becoming a christian does not save you make you automatically Gods Bride. You have to repent and be baptized unto the Lord Jesus Christ. Just because you say your a Christian and say you love God does not do the the trick. It has to be sincere. And God will see that you are willing to worship him and serve him. And he'll bless you.

POPclogger216 Says:

Nov 14, 2011 - If you truly believe in Him, and acknowledge and repent of your sins (That being a part of welcoming Him into your heart/becoming a Christian), then if you were to walk outside and be hit by a car and die, you would still go to Heaven, even if you weren't baptized before you died. Baptism's more of a way to show that you were/are cleansed, sort of giving the person being baptized a sense of renewal.

DSOXBLADE Says:

Nov 14, 2011 - Right. But see if you say well I was going to go to heaven anyway why get baptized? Your not. Because the reason you where in the first place is because you where sincere with getting right with God. And going to be baptized is apart of that. Being baptized is you killing the old and bringing up the new. That's why you go under the water and back up. Not some Priest sprinkling some nasty oil on your head. Or being a baby in a oil bath.

POPclogger216 Says:

Dec 11, 2011 - I'm not saying that somebody shouldn't be baptized. Baptism is a great way to publicly express your faith. But if someone were to not be able to have the opportunity of being baptized before they die, I believe they would still go to Heaven, bcause of John 3:18 -"Whoever believes in him [Jesus] is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son."

Mopheadmusic2000 Says:

Dec 11, 2011 - Well. I wanted to post something that said how great Falling Up is as a band and that their songs are the most energetic and diverse beauty on the airwaves--if they were indeed ever there, because I came about them by a happy-accident--but it seems that this section has devloved into a "holy war" that I cannot particapte in. So, I will post nothing! Ha.

KarpentersKidsBAND Says:

Dec 28, 2011 - Great song!!! Falling Up has a new one out, too. Search for "The Candle Was Gone" here on youtube.

22ntzs22 Says:

Apr 26, 2012 - dont apologize for using a language that is difficult for you. :) many people who are borne speak english only know english.How are things going for you now?