The Secret History of Western Education: The Scientific Destruction of Minds - Charlotte Iserbyt 3/5

RAAC60 Says:

Jul 18, 2011 - : PART III - programs that support the interest of the "few"; when gov insists that instead of properly taxing the rich it is a better solution to "cut" funding of social programs that support the poor children and elderly class of americans.... Tell me Aurinkohirvi: do you think that taxation is accomplishing its purpose? Do you think that you, as an American citizen, if you saw your hard earned dollar being used like that would be pleased about it? Please be INFORMED!

Aurinkohirvi Says:

Jul 19, 2011 - @RAAC60PARTS I+II+III. What you described there is a government that uses tax money and taxing to benefit the rich, the powerful. A fascist corporatist system where the rich take benefit of the state. Such a government is of course a problem to the vast majority of the people.If you read my comments, I'm for a socialist government that uses taxation to combat the accumulation of wealth to the hands of a few rich, and transfers it to the majority of people.

Aurinkohirvi Says:

Jul 19, 2011 - @petertrastThere were no countries that "survived" WWII without American help?I happen to live in a country that fought against the Soviet Union from 1939 to 1944, and America was their ally, not ours. However Finland managed to stay independent, democratic, were not occupied, and even defeated the Soviet army in the battle field. So I would say you are wrong.Did the Americans also free Syria and Lebanon? How about Ethiopia? Did you defeat the Germans and Italians in Libya and Egypt?

Aurinkohirvi Says:

Jul 19, 2011 - petertrast wrote "Pay attention. I did not say the VERY best. I said better than any non-capitalist nation.."I have no idea what part of the discussion this refers to.

petertrast Says:

Jul 19, 2011 - No, we did not free Libya, etc. the Allies, whose homelands we took back from the Germans did. Without our presence in Europe, they would have failed on all 3 continents. American involvement was the deciding factor. It is arrogance to believe otherwise. Germany would have succeeded if America had not intervened.

Aurinkohirvi Says:

Jul 20, 2011 - @petertrastYou took Britain back from the Germans? Did you know that the in the Eastern Front the Soviets were already in Poland when the western allied made their landing in Normandy? The Germans had been retreating a year already..I never said anything about the U.S. involvement in the WWII. You started this whole war issue by saying there was no countries that didn't survive without U.S. help, which is utter ballony. I know who is the arrogant here and it isn't me!

petertrast Says:

Jul 21, 2011 - LOL it's true! I am arrogant... but without without US intervention, the Third Reich would have survived. No legitimate historian has ever disputed this. We also stopped the Empire of the Rising Sun from destroying the Eastern Hemisphere too. And we "did not take Britain back from the Germans", when did I say that?? Germany never took over Britain... what history book are you reading from? We had OTHER allies, like France... weird statement, lol...

Aurinkohirvi Says:

Jul 22, 2011 - @petertrast"without US intervention, the Third Reich would have survived. No legitimate historian has ever disputed this."Another amazing false statement! Since I was in school, what I've learned is that Hitler's only chance was a fast victory, collapse of the Soviet Union. The longer the war, the more certain the Soviet victory. The USA beated Japan, but the Soviet Union beated Germany.Then this historrian isn't "legitimate" to you?watch?v=m2xW6veHY9U

Aurinkohirvi Says:

Jul 22, 2011 - petertrast wrote: "And we "did not take Britain back from the Germans", when did I say that?"Here: "No, we did not free Libya, etc. the Allies, whose homelands we took back from the Germans did."Well those Allies who stopped the Germans in Egypt, Libya and Ethiopia were mainly from the British Commonwealth. So... what were you saying? Sounds to me like you were saying you took the British Commonwealth countries' homelands back from Germany.

kingofaikido Says:

Aug 2, 2011 - I feel sorry for this woman. She is going off on huge tangents when no such conspiracies exist as she claims. 'Fascist-Communist' is just non-sense, unless she means state-violence like Stalin's Gulags and extermination of millions. As for dumbing down, I am not sure she might be one of the early victims.. I mean the phrase 'control and manipulate', in the context, does not mean anything malicious like how she takes it to mean. 'Control' here is technical, meaning 'what do we do?'; 'mani-

kingofaikido Says:

Aug 2, 2011 - 'manipulate' as the word's origins would have made clear means 'what do we do with our hands?', again it means, simply, 'what is the workload we should assign ourselves here?'. I agree with her about how the language might be inappropriately technical, but it sounds as though, these new computer engineers were-are Vulcan-like and unemotional characters anyway, which means they aren't that good at expressing themselves emotionally or as plain folk would say 'straight-forwardly'.. but...

kingofaikido Says:

Aug 2, 2011 - she shouldn't exaggerate this into some kind of governmental conspiracy...that's sounds and is probably quite ridiculous. I would love to see a study showing how all these groups are somehow related 'skull and bones', the 'computer engineers', and so called 'fascist-communists'. the latter sounds extraordinary, as if Stalin's henchmen had somehow invaded the inner circles of the Whitehouse. Where's the evidence of that? Where are the Russian names? Sounds just preposterous, without evidence.

kingofaikido Says:

Aug 2, 2011 - 'oh, my!' what a woman! she's worried about the use of words.. apparently foreign words are almost like curse words. i mean 'soviet' was a word that existed before the 'soviet union'.. 'a soviet' was a large community or a state-like geographic region. the USA is also a regional association, a community of states. There is hardly any difference in meaning here between a state and a soviet except that one is the word for thing in English and the other is the word for the thing in English..wow

pmsan29 Says:

Aug 19, 2011 - "The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of a World Government ..." -- AMERICAN MERCURY MAGAZINE, December 1957, pg. 92...Spot on

FMMAROTO Says:

Sep 2, 2011 - The people who grew in the Soviet Union are by far the best educated people that had ever walked this Earth. We wish we have the Soviet education here!

Musicerthanyou Says:

Oct 25, 2011 - RON PAUL WANTS TO ABOLISH THE BOARD OF EDUCATION! 2012!!!!!!!

bobeagle3 Says:

Nov 18, 2011 - God bless you Charoltte !

mrstjstambaugh Says:

Dec 13, 2011 - I have 1 child in the 3rd. grade and 2 in the 2nd. grade. They have not been taught how to fill out a mailing envelope. Now, this might not sound important but think about it. They taught them how to use computers. They now all about e-mail. The technology we love and use so much. We have become dependent on it. The thing is the Government can take it all away. Please do not become so dependent on something that someone else controls, because then they control YOU.

NYWAORCANZ Says:

Dec 29, 2011 - THis is not just in AmericaIt is also happening in the all the England ruled countries as wellcommunism is corrupting the world

rascalz819 Says:

Mar 17, 2012 - Loolll! Americans are the laughing stock of the world right now. Stop pointing finger at the government lol!! The Us government is not the problem as it is merely a tool!! The people using the tool are the problem ! Take back the control of your government and you will have no more problems. Its people like you who keeps claiming less government implications in your lives that have made it possible for corporations to own your fkn country!

zmontville Says:

Mar 26, 2012 - I love this woman...so glad she came out to say this.

boogieblaine24 Says:

Mar 26, 2012 - TOO BAD ARE PRESIDENTS ARE SELECTED NOT ELECTED!!!!!!! :( LOOK IT UP

kbkilla42084 Says:

Apr 6, 2012 - Not to burst your bubble, but the government controls the post too. Teach them smoke signals!

mralanv Says:

Apr 13, 2012 - Everything is done on a computer nowadays. Teachers do not want you to do anything by hand anymore, if you do an essay by hand they will probably throw it away. It's really sad that everything is getting replaced by computers. Kids do not even know how to write a letter anymore unless you teach them how to. It's not the sort of thing you learn at schools anymore.

mralanv Says:

Apr 13, 2012 - Believe this thing is way beyond the English-speaking world, nearly all western countries have adopted this education system.