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Title: Pt 2 "Combat Shotgun Shootout:" Remington 870
Added: Aug 3, 2009
Author: nutnfancy
Duration: 34:26
Description:
PART 2 OF ////////////////// Few handheld small arms equal the knockdown power and devastation of a competently wielded combat shotgun. In this multi-part review series by Nutnfancy, three excellent pump combat shotguns are covered in detail: the Remington 870 (Talo Special Edition), the Mossberg 590A1, and the discontinued Winchester 1300 Defender (similar gun by FN USA now). There are a couple of other players in pumps like FN, Charles Daly, and some off brands but these three are the stars of the series. Several semi-automatic combat shotguns also compete against this type and these brands. These autos include the Benelli Super 90/M2/M4, the Remington 1100/11-87 Tactical series, the Mossberg 930, Saiga variations, the Beretta FP101(discontinued), Winchester Super X3 (more of a hunting gun), FN SLP, and a few others. However these auto guns rarely function well on low-base/low power shot loads, needing full power loads to reliably cycle (w/o port or spring mods). Seemingly not a big deal right? Wrong. That's because you have to train on the shotgun to get good at it., pump or auto. Training with full power loads will bankrupt you if you are paying the bill (even PDs have a tough time affording the cost), you will soon quit, and your skills will suffer. A good combat pump shotgun will cycle any load you throw in it and it will do it all day long with almost perfect reliability. Low base birdshot, high base, odd balls, non-lethal rounds: all will fire and shuck just fine in these guns. That means more affordable abnd therefore frequent training which develops combat proficiency. And in my experience, autos have failed me at the most inopportune times. But not these pumps. These three shotguns are affordable, durable, mostly ergonomic, fast into action, low profile in carry, fun to shoot, and affordable. The Remington 870 varieties are highly proven in the US LE community with an outstanding track record of toughness and longevity. It is a lightweight, tough, and fast shucking gun. The Mossberg 590A1 passed the military's stringent 3,000 round Milspec 3443 protocol, is also a proven design, and features an extra rugged construction. With break-in, the 590A1, offered in a wide variety of models, becomes a fast shooting, accurate combat shotgun. The 590A1 benefits from a fast top-mounted safety, bayonet capability, and faster no loading gate loading. In my estimation though, the Winchester 1300 Defender is the fastest pump shotgun ever devised and in the hands of a skilled shooter will accurately disperse lead with semi-auto speeds. It also has proven to be a durable design for me. Downsides with these guns, as with most tactical shotguns, is limited ammo capacity, heavy/bulky ammo, and very limited range (UNLESS slugs are employed!). But when paired with a tactical carbine support weapon and used within their range, these combat shotguns will provide withering wall of fire that will own the day (as shown: easily placing over 27 .24 cal projectiles on target with ONE shot). Moreover, even for the small amount paid, any of these guns will do this through several lifetimes of service. As a police officer, mil type, or responsible civilian sheepdog, the pump combat shotgun should be part of your inventory for keeping the peace. /////////////////////// Nutnfancy Likeability for Remington 870 Tactical: 9 of 10 /////////////// / //////// Music used is called "Robots In Love" and "Wounded" by artist "Jimmy G." You can find it here: http://jimmyg.us/FreeMusic/tabid/99/Default.aspx //////////// Almost all photos are TNP originals. A select few come from the public domain. Their posters/owners have consented to royalty-free worldwide unpaid distribution through unqualified agreement to Photobucket.com Terms of Use and through their selection and agreement to worldwide public use.
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Youtube Comments: 917
Ben Dover Says:
Mar 31, 2012 - Its a fine firearm.......but very heavy when loaded with the drums.
nuckdukem1290 Says:
Apr 2, 2012 - its true!
TheJohnboy1998 Says:
Apr 11, 2012 - i like bird shot more than buckshot because its tighter grouping than buck shot
sgtterry309 Says:
Apr 19, 2012 - Weatherby PA459, excellent shotgun, made in Turkey.
forgotagain00 Says:
Apr 21, 2012 - take a hammer to the trigger guard see if its strong
forgotagain00 Says:
Apr 21, 2012 - i had one i loved it missing in action thou
forgotagain00 Says:
Apr 21, 2012 - I dont like the side rail i saw a gun that had the loads on top rail holds more shells and thier faced up .
Chipm0nk14 Says:
Apr 26, 2012 - plastic* not foam
Firearms4Canada Says:
Apr 28, 2012 - a bit more than that, i've had a wad embed itself in a microwave lol
pacore007 Says:
Apr 29, 2012 - Nice review; what kind of sling attachment is on your 870?
11696Ron Says:
May 2, 2012 - awesome review but whats your view on the remington model 887
100nitrog Says:
May 2, 2012 - Anyone know how the side saddle would work out for a left handed shooter? From the looks of it, it would cause some problems. It'd be a real shame to buy one and find out that your hand doesn't fit anymore.
xXROWATXx Says:
May 3, 2012 - Do you have a left handed model or a right handed? I'm left handed but use a right handed model. I had one on my 870. I ended up taking it off. I found while shooting high brass loads, the corner of the side saddle would wack off the side of my trigger finger. Other then that it did not interfere with operating the shotgun. The slide release is still perfectly accessible. I just found it smacking off my hand to be a nuisance, If you can deal with that one con, go for it.
Minrow56 Says:
May 5, 2012 - Fair response to the 870 critics older model 870s like the discontinued 870 Wingmaster has a steel trigger guard, so if you can find them and handle the wear they have its a good alternative to polymer guard, assuming the guard is that big of a deal to you.
TheHuntIsOn247 Says:
May 5, 2012 - Picked up a REmington 870 last month, fired it maybe 20 times. By the 3rd it was jamming badly. By the time I was done for the day, the crappy molded plastic stock had fallen apart and the gun's locking mechanism had stopped functioning. Of course upon contacting Remington I was told the issue was likely the fault of myself, the dealer or the importer. The Remington 870 is by far the worst gun i've ever owned and the customer service is attrocious. Dont get one.
Ghostknight310 Says:
May 8, 2012 - im left handed and have a side saddle, it doesnt cause any issues for me
juniorxxnho Says:
May 8, 2012 - what about pistol grip vs rifle grip on 870? user preference or tangible difference?
GunloverClark Says:
May 8, 2012 - I have a Charles daily, Smoothest pump action I've ever used, but unreliable.
ctophu Says:
May 9, 2012 - Hey I have a question on side saddles. A friend of mine at a local 3 gun match attached a Velcro pad on the side of the gun and a MOLLE 7 shot shell holder to it. When his holster was used up, just rip it off and slap another one on from your pocket. Let me know what you think of this idea... here is a link to a vid of his setup.
coastguard1996 Says:
May 12, 2012 - 870 is just the best pump action shotgun!
gocloneyourself Says:
May 13, 2012 - great video! but...you said "your not gonna be shooting enough for it to get hot enought to burn your hands" I beg to differ sir!!!
asaaqas Says:
May 17, 2012 - litterly JUST got my new 870.....wich is the second shotgun ive ever shot (new into guns) and shot six rounds through it outa the box...great gun
ct0027 Says:
May 23, 2012 - would you recommend the 870 express tactical for 500$?
brandonbullock50 Says:
May 24, 2012 - what? my 870 is an express magnum and its got a metal trigger guard.












npr386 Says:
Mar 30, 2012 - Nice Boba Fett reference. I love the 870 but agree that the safety position is a bit awkward.