Sam Harris simply destroys catholicism

dalmansour Says:

May 27, 2012 - *drinking the blood*

ponchred Says:

May 27, 2012 - There's no more true evidence than a real time live experiment. And it's far better than any evidence you can produce to the contrary. Therefore I win. There's still no God.

meisner73 Says:

May 27, 2012 - @olantern.. One piece of big evidence is in the age of the earth. The only info I have ever heard from theists is that it is about 6,000 years old. Every piece of scientific info suggests the world to be well over 3 billion years old. For me that alone is a substantial difference that needs some explaining by you theists.

meisner73 Says:

May 27, 2012 - Other scientific proof can be found pertaining to the stantorini islands. There was a major volcanic eruption around 3,000 years ago. This created a title surge in the Mesopotamia area which can explain how Moses "split" the waters.which of course was the waters receding out ad the wave came in. The darkness from the dirt and smut fromThe eruption darkened the skies as told in the bible.

williemetoyer1 Says:

May 27, 2012 - Its not church teaching that a person who through no fault of thier own do not know anything about God goes to hell

williemetoyer1 Says:

May 27, 2012 - no I already answered that question and we do believe that jesus is present under the aperence of bread and wine

antnypokingsticks Says:

May 27, 2012 - Actually, Christianity does teach that if you aren't saved under God (the Christian God) that you will go to Hell. That's what I've always heard.

dalmansour Says:

May 27, 2012 - Ok this is exactly why I am happy I am no longer part of the catholic cult. You just said the same thing differently. Let me help you. Protestants believe that that the bread and wine are symbolic while Catholics believe they are literally eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Jesus under the appearance of bread and wine after saying a few words. You should take time to learn more about your religion.

williemetoyer1 Says:

May 27, 2012 - well i'm speaking for catholic christian beliefs and the belief is if you know the truth and deny it then you would face judgement but if you don't know then you can't be judged by that

smithjohnson112 Says:

May 27, 2012 - But pointing to the bible doesn't mean I 'know' the truth, because I cannot help the fact that I am unconvinced. Belief is not a choice. If one 'chooses' to believe something, they are in actuality lying to themselves. How could a god hold it against someone then, if they are not convinced?

williemetoyer1 Says:

May 27, 2012 - I know my religion you brought that up out of no where to answer what I said about the guy in the video misrepresenting catholic teaching but I was talking about when he said that its catholic belief that a person goes to hell just because they never was given the knowledge of God

dalmansour Says:

May 27, 2012 - Yes the catholic answer (as my priest would always say).. Only God can judge them. All I can say is it took my 23 years but I am finally out! And only when you looking at the outside in do you realize what kinda of cult you've been a part of.

williemetoyer1 Says:

May 27, 2012 - because you have seen the truth and deny it you have freely choosen to deny the truth According to your reasoning then belief in anything calls for you to lie to yourself

williemetoyer1 Says:

May 27, 2012 - No only when you have lost faith but you find out in the end

smithjohnson112 Says:

May 27, 2012 - I said choosing to believe is lying to yourself. Real belief is a compulsion. You cannot choose to believe that you are black (or white, whichever one you are not).Also, you really should work on your punctuation; it will help you get your points across more intelligibly.

williemetoyer1 Says:

May 27, 2012 - I think we call that faith and thanks for the advice but you understund what I was saying lol

smithjohnson112 Says:

May 27, 2012 - Faith is the suspension of logic or reality so that one might believe. You wouldn't do this with any other debate, so why do it with this one? When you understand why you only believe in one god, you will understand why I believe in none. (Which is to say that it is unprovable either way.)

williemetoyer1 Says:

May 27, 2012 - wrong faith is not the suspension of logic its belief in god without seeing him face to face and belief in what God has reveal to us

antnypokingsticks Says:

May 27, 2012 - Wow! That's refreshing to hear. In a lot of denominations, from what I know, usually it's not like that, but I didn't know a ton about Catholicism. Thanks for the information. :)

mrtekbunny Says:

May 28, 2012 - he can't help it. i think the guy is actually mentally challenged, sadly. =-(

mrtekbunny Says:

May 28, 2012 - "are you really an idiot like he said."the fact that you think this is even close to a cohesive sentence means everyone who has ever listened to you absolutely needs to ignore you.

mrtekbunny Says:

May 28, 2012 - your stupidity is obvious, but up until now i've been nice enough to keep it to myself to try and continue a decent conversation. you obviously have your horse blinders on so let me help you out - fuck obama, and fuck romney. now what? i think both are horseshit faces for a political group that is looking to screw over their country, intentionally or not.but keep labeling me. i'm sure that alongside with your thumb sucking and idol worshipping helps you to sleep at nite.

cardinalkesky Says:

May 28, 2012 - the people who don't know about god don't get judged. They just go to purgatory

smithjohnson112 Says:

May 28, 2012 - So you're saying that you will eventually have a reason you can physically point to, but not yet. That is suspending logic because as of right now, you have no physical reason to believe in a particular god.

olantern Says:

May 28, 2012 - ,how did you win? you did not present a real time live experiment. hmmm so friend you lose as all atheists do on this subject! you cannot disprove God and never will . but we can prove He exists when you die. i win again! bye now.