Andrew Klavan: Liberal Fantasies vs. Reality, Can you Spot the Difference?

buisyman Says:

Feb 8, 2012 - @ListenandQuestion I've never done that, have you?

emantabrizi Says:

Feb 8, 2012 - @buisyman ... LOL, "...I'll blow your argument out of the water." And then..."I don't have to prove anything." Such tough talk and nothing to back it up. I am disappointed.

buisyman Says:

Feb 8, 2012 - @emantabrizi Yea, that's what I thought. You have no proof, only predjudice. Grow up. Prove your claims with facts, or shup your piehole, junior.

EGarrett01 Says:

Feb 8, 2012 - I'm a libertarian but I have to reign Klavan in a bit here. 1) If you're a RELIGIOUS conservative, don't EVER lecture others on the importance of reality. 2) You credit first-world society with "inventing the wheel" and say the Native cultures didn't as though it's a racial matter. Most modern inventions were ADAPTED through cultural spread, since Asia was one massive continent. Primitive Native cultures tend to be isolated by water. That's circumstance, not inherent inferiority. Carry on.

jrwel14 Says:

Feb 8, 2012 - Conservative facts of life? What a joke! Consrvatives make up their stories.!

jrwel14 Says:

Feb 8, 2012 - Anyone can make a claim and nitpick what they want and leave out the rest.

marionetemanJ Says:

Feb 9, 2012 - @jrwel14 Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.

emantabrizi Says:

Feb 9, 2012 - @buisyman ... LOL, and look who's talking! What proof did you offer? None. Whose argument did you blow out of the water? No one's, and my argument is still going, full-steam ahead. You gonna hit me with something more than a water balloon?

buisyman Says:

Feb 9, 2012 - @emantabrizi Like I said, baka yaro, I don't need to prove anything. I'm not the one who made any accusations, YOU did. Now, either prove your point with facts, not feelings, or shut the fuck up and run home to your mommie. You've already lost this one simply by your penchant to call childish names insteaad of having an adult discussion. You're such a little girl. Shougo M. That's you, fool.

emantabrizi Says:

Feb 9, 2012 - @buisyman ... Hahahahahaha!!! So, now, you're on a pedestal of morality, huh? MY penchant to call childish names? Are you serious? Perhaps, you should go back and read your first post to me. I believe you called me a "libtard" and a "retard." If you're going to act like an asshole in here, then don't cry to me when you get shit on your face.

buisyman Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - @emantabrizi I know what I said to you, idiot. You're trying to go off topic. Prove your accusations or go smoke some more weed and kill some more braincells.

crmarquet Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - Yes, Mr. Andrew Klavan, I can spot the difference between fantasy and reality......but I'm also able to see through rhetorical bullshit--no matter how thick it may be--glossed over with a touch of self-righteousness. You made a few good points about liberal's mentality and worldview that it's hard to disagree with. However, I did [spot] when and where your bullshit started. It did start with your [categorical assumption] that it was Lee Oswald (alone) who killed president Kennedy (cont. on #2)

crmarquet Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - (#2) Let's touch history just a little bit to point out why we cannot make any [categorical assumption] one way or the other. Although ha has become a legend, JFK was hardly the most popular president in history when he was gunned down in November, 1963. In the previous 6 months alone, the Secret Service had review over 400 threats to his life. Three of these were serious enough to entail changes in his security routine. He was loathed by anti-Castro exiles, other rightwingers...(cont. on #3)

crmarquet Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - (#3)...the Mob, and even some of his own goverment agencies. Notice I haven't said "Lee Oswald didn't do it"; but it's very puzzling to me and most Americans that somebody made sure he didn't make it to a trial to be found guilty or innocent. That alone is enough reason to suspend judgment. In attempting to figure out who killed JFK it's important to understand who had a beef with him and why. The seed of that hatred were planted in the 1960 election that brought JFK to the precidency (cont. 4)

crmarquet Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - (#4) The Democrats stole the election from Republican candidate Richard Nixon by tempering with the vote in two states. In Illinois Mob boss, Sam Giancana, [arranged] for 10,000 votes (from the graveyard) to be cast for JFK. In Texas, the political machine of JFK's running mate, Lyndon Johnson, arbitrarily disqualified about 100,000 votes. As a result, 51 electoral votes that should have gone to Nixon went to JFK. Had they been added to Nixon's total, he would have aqueezed into...(cont. on #5)

crmarquet Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - (#5)...the precidency by one elctoral vote. But JFK ignored his debt to Giancana and Johnson. Early in his presidency, he and his brother Bobby established a special Justice Department strike force aimed at eradicating organized crime in the U.S. By the summer of 1963 JFK seemed ready to dump Johnson from his 1964 reelection ticket because Johnson's long-time personal secretary, Bobby Baker, had been implicated in a scandal involving federal farm subsidies. And I'm not even going (cont. on #6)

crmarquet Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - (#6)..to touch the Bay of Pigs fiasco and his relation with the USSR, his retaliation against those in the CIA he felt misled him about the strength of anti-Castro sentiment in Cuba, his trading of the Bay of Pigs' prisoners for food, tractors, medicine, and whatnot, etc. Now I'm going to touch the case of Haiti that you brought up--but only slightly. FANTASY: "U.S. goes into Haiti for noble purpose" FACT: U.S, goes into place only for vested interest, and Rwanda is a prime example. (cont. on 7)

crmarquet Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - (#7)Since gaining its independence from France in a bloody rebellion in 1804, Haiti had gone through a succession of dictators--all of them supported by France and/or the U.S. By the early twenty century, the population was uneducated, poor and hungry. And what the U.S. did about it? NOTHING! In 1908 the country totally broke down, of course. Regional warlords and militias--known as "cacos"--fought in the streets. U.S. saw its huge interest in that little nation threaten and went in (cont. on 8)

crmarquet Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - (#8)...to occupy it from 1915 until 1934. And during its occupation they installed puppet goverments, ran the economy, military and police, and for all intents and purposes were in absolute control of that little nation. The FACT is that the very first Hatian slave rebellion against the French thugs, in spite the U.S. never care much for France, didn't set well with the U.S. How dare you, NIGGERS, fight for independence!!! Later.

emantabrizi Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - @buisyman ... No, I don't think you do. If you knew what you said, you wouldn't be crying like a little bitch about what I said in response. Alright...try and blow this out of the water...in a TIME magazine article about Scott, he claimed to be a "born-again Christian" (whatever that means) and a "soldier of God." He believed it was his mission to "defend the innocent ones" against attack. Members of his church described him as "devoutly Christian" and "in love with God." Go...

buisyman Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - @emantabrizi What's wth all this talk about crying? Is that what you're doing? Just because someone SAYS they're something, doesn't mean they actually are. I guess you believe every criminal that is caught in the act and says he didn't do it, don't you? As It is Written "You will know them by their fruits". If someone says they're Christian, yet everything they do is against what the Bible says, they aren't Christian.

emantabrizi Says:

Feb 10, 2012 - @buisyman ... That's it? That's your argument? Because he killed, he's not a real Christian? Lots of Christians do things that go against the Bible. Roeder killed in the name of God. His motivation to kill abortion doctors came from his teachings in the Church. All "pro-life" organizations are religious-based. That's okay, though. If you believe he was a fake Christian, then I guess we have a lot of fake Christians running around this country.

marionetemanJ Says:

Feb 11, 2012 - @emantabrizi 

marionetemanJ Says:

Feb 11, 2012 - @emantabrizi Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.

buisyman Says:

Feb 11, 2012 - @emantabrizi Not because he killed (I've done lots of that), but because he murdered. And, yes, there are a lot of "fake Christians in this country. Probably around 80% I'd say, but that's just a guess from my personal experience. There are a lot of fake chruches, too. Like those retards who keep protesting at the funerals of soldiers.