John Taylor Gatto - State Controlled Consciousness

Vote4RonPaulLiberty Says:

Nov 11, 2011 - @XTRABIG I hear you.

chopchop11172 Says:

Nov 17, 2011 - maybe the occupy movement could add this to there agenda.

phinny5608 Says:

Nov 21, 2011 - I rarely come across people as full of shit as this guy. His arguments make no sense at all. He's worse than Glenn Beck. He has no understanding of history whatsoever, and he just rides the conventional "wisdom" of "Oh, the present sucks and the past was so great!" Before schooling kicked in, people had no skills and worked in factories doing jobs that led to carpal tunnel syndrome. Maybe that's why some people like him: they want to go back to the days when exploitation was easy.

phinny5608 Says:

Nov 21, 2011 - @XTRABIG That's not even close to what a slave is. Learn about real slavery and you'll understand why public schooling--while not perfect (what in life can be?)--is a refreshing change of pace from our barbaric past.

BelleAndTheBoy Says:

Nov 24, 2011 - @phinny5608 "Before schooling kicked in, people had no skills"... wow, public education really did a number on you.

phinny5608 Says:

Nov 24, 2011 - @BelleAndTheBoy Yes, it did, just not the kind you mean. I listen to documented and verifiable history, not the ramblings of cranky old men with happy illusions about the past.

music9heals Says:

Nov 30, 2011 - DUDEEE TO DUMB ASS PHINNY5608 EXPLAIN THE PYRIMDS EXPLAIN THOSE STONE ALINED IN A CIRCLE ( I4OT THE NAME) PLEASE STFU EDUCATION EXIST BECAUSE OF CREATIVITY NOT CAUSE IT CREATED IT SELF (GOD)...(BS) AND IN SIMPLE WORDS IN WHICH I COULD ELABORATE BUT ITS NOT NECESSARY PROVES HOW IGNORANT UR CLAIM IS

Jeromepsy001 Says:

Dec 2, 2011 - the egyptians built the pyramid, Michaelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel ceiling frescoes that depicts Adam and God, china fortified its entire country in ancient time and provided the world with all of the basic innovations like gunpowder to pasta,the inca's built macchu pichu on top of a mountain, there where international bestsellers like homer and virgil, philisopheres like Socrates to Lau tzu that influenced both hemispheres of the world.I could go on and on!...

Jeromepsy001 Says:

Dec 2, 2011 - Now we have modern schooling and we have more skilled people that can balance checks, drive a car,knows that hamburgers and hotdogs is the food pyramid, knows the difference between an "I-POD" and an "I-PAD", work in a assembly line, believe the corporate mass media and say this is reality, always keeping up to date with many self-absorbed and narssistic celebrities, believe in a politician when they say the word "change" and always believe that politics is only about left or right.

Jeromepsy001 Says:

Dec 2, 2011 - Now we have modern schooling and skilled people that can balance checks, drive a car, knows that the food pyramid is Hamburgers and Hotdogs, knows the difference between an "I-POD" and an "I-PAD" work in a Assembly line, believe the corporate mass media and say this is reality, always keeping up to date with self-absorbed and narssistic celebrities, believe in every candidate that uses the word change and knows that politics is only about left or right. Damn I'm proud to be a modern man! :D

JamJHolmes Says:

Dec 12, 2011 - @phinny5608 Look in the mirror. U will see a sheep, incapable of outside the box thinking.

67jedi67 Says:

Dec 12, 2011 - @phinny5608 before the late eighties 'documented and verifiable history' was only available through a handful of tv channels, a handful of newspaers/magazines, the education system and books (which were produced by publishers). all of these information sources were formulated and distributed by the immensely wealthy and a tiny number of people in government. look around the world the systems of control are collapsing, this is mainly due to greed, and the determination of those who understand.

phinny5608 Says:

Dec 12, 2011 - @JamJHolmes I based my views on facts, not cranky old men. Who's the sheep?

phinny5608 Says:

Dec 12, 2011 - @67jedi67 Oh really? So where did you read that?

67jedi67 Says:

Dec 13, 2011 - @phinny5608 i didn't read it in one place, it is a culmination of many years of research and interest in the subject. most of what i said is only recent history so a lot of it is common knowledge. school system teaches you to do what your told or be punished. gets you used to submitting to authority without questioning. your early years are very important, your mind is totally open and you take things in very easily as you have little objectivity due to your inexperience in the world.

phinny5608 Says:

Dec 13, 2011 - @67jedi67 You say many years of research, and I'm not denying that part. My point is you just said what you said about books, newspapers, and television being owned by a few people, then go on to say you read this in books or where ever. Do you see the disconnect here? Even if you're totally right, how do you know I don't have perfectly reliable sources for my views? (Part of which, by the way, is years of reading bullshit arguments and seeing the same symptoms in Gatto's writing.)

67jedi67 Says:

Dec 14, 2011 - @phinny5608 i did say before the late 80's, the relative economic freedom experienced in the last 60 years has allowed those who were unhappy with the status quo if determined to break away and become influencers themselves, this loss of central control only increased dramatically with satelite, cable, more independent publishers and then the internet has now become the most powerful tool for truth (and lies), a single person with a computer can sometimes do what a tv network did in the past.

kittykat979 Says:

Dec 14, 2011 - I prefer holistic education. Where students are taught essential subjects but also about their body and mind. How certain things like love and compassion can make positive change in our society.

JimThegrimJim Says:

Dec 19, 2011 - @XTRABIG Well, look at this way. If you hadn't done what you did in your past, you might not have learned this, at all. You probably wouldn't have googled this. It's hard to devour that you have been a good "slave" a big amount of your life, but by being this "slave" in the past, you are now in the presence aware of this. And this is why many people don't want to admit that they have been slaves, because they don't want to admit that they've been "stupid" for all those years. But that itself is:

JimThegrimJim Says:

Dec 19, 2011 - @XTRABIG Continue from last post: even more of stupidity.

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