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Title: You Were Never a True Christian

Added: Jul 18, 2009

Author: FightingAtheist

Duration: 3:17

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Many Christians say there is no such thing as a former Christian. they claim a True Christian would have never left. This video shows the fallacies in this claim. Former Christians, or Ex-Christians, do exist.

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Youtube Comments: 3779

ForumLight Says:

Apr 5, 2012 - If a person does not have an observation nor a repeatable test case of a big bang creating a universe, it's just a mythological belief that such a thing could happen. To call something that cannot be observed and cannot be shown in a test case science, let alone fact, is just flat out dishonest. And this is how such false claims malign science.

IaintNoGood Says:

Apr 8, 2012 - You & your ilk need to put together your collective knowledge & peer reviewed science which debunks present scientific theories, then present it to the Nobel Prize Commity. You will gain world wide notoriety & scads of money. You do not realize it but you just exposed your ignorance concerning the Big Bang Theory because it is observable & repeatable. Just because it involves complicated mathematics which you cannot grasp, does not make it false. It's fun watching your ilk chase your tail

SunTzu2008 Says:

Apr 11, 2012 - I say this not to be mean at all, but only to encourage. When a believer has had a true encounter with the living God and is truly born again in spirit, baptized in the spirit and transformed into the likeness of Jesus, there is no returning to a place of unbelief. 

Jesusreighns Says:

Apr 13, 2012 - there are many books about "once saved always saved" and I myself believe that you can reject your faith. but i do think that it is a contience decision, so you'll know what you are rejecting. check out Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance

Jesusreighns Says:

Apr 13, 2012 - so you can only reject your faith if you are really know what you are doing. Sin can not make you loose your salvation neither can doubt and unbelieve. and I do believe that once you've rejected your faith it's imposible to turn back again.because you can only believe in God by the faith of God ( efe 2:8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God) human type faith which is based on physical world can not produce spiritual faith

mysanuty Says:

Apr 15, 2012 - what is a true christian.the quiet ones,the ones who talks,the ones who out on the streets in fear giving warnings to everyone or the ones who threatens people.they are all different with one same belief and you can't see this belief is full of crap to manipulate and control people.and they want me to believe in this.something made the universe thats not meant to be worship.men made that up.

jehovahuponyou Says:

Apr 24, 2012 - THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SAID:John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.THAT IS THE TEST OF A TRUE CHRISTIAN.ALSO PEEKNUCKLERBUNNY, WERE DOES CRIPTURE SAY "God must honor free-will?".

Noobripper Says:

May 8, 2012 - Thank you for not being rude, but could you please explain what logic your comment is based on? Why would anyone on earth pretend to be a FORMER christian? Your comment suggests that the uploader never believed in Jesus. What have you seen on this channel that supports such a belief? You are obviously a believer. Are you saying you will always believe no matter what you see or learn in the future? Sounds rather closed minded, if you'll forgive me for saying so.

MsAlanaGirl Says:

May 8, 2012 - I was raised by Agnostic parents and I later became Atheist and now I am a Christian. So yes I am now a believer. However if you are on youtube alot then you would see these channels alot. There are atleast 30 diffrent channel made by atheist who claim they are former christians but they only say that because they were raised Christian but never actully tried to pray or read the bible. That does not make someone a Christian. And I just see this same thing that turns out to be false

MsAlanaGirl Says:

May 8, 2012 - Just because you think you "felt the holy spirit" dosen't make it so. Thats not just what being christian is about, its not all feel good. If you truly knew Jesus you wouldn't have any doubt. MANY "christians" don't really know Jesus, just becaue your going through the motions of what you think a Christian does dosen't mean you truly know Jesus. THATS why people say that. I am a former atheist and many old friends tell me "You weren't a real Atheist, or you wouldn't have left"

dkthg Says:

May 11, 2012 - no true scotsman ftw!!!!!!

QwertyCaesar Says:

May 13, 2012 - "The only true Christian died on a cross"-Friedrich Nietzche, on the behavior of Christians.

j919or Says:

May 14, 2012 - Right bc all are "christians"/christlike to the degree that they are yielded to Jesus living in them. No one yields perfectly and the evil flesh/sin nature wars against the Spirit of Jesus.

j919or Says:

May 14, 2012 - "You weren't a real Atheist"But an atheist isnt changed like a christian is changed. One that receives Jesus bcomes a new creation and He can never go back to being what He once was. Athesits are only such bc they have not yet seen evidence for God. No change... just lacking evidence. SO when the evidence comes those that are honest will leave atheism.

j919or Says:

May 14, 2012 - "'to renew them again unto repentance"Context is king. in v1 the writer is addressing those that lay again the foundation of repentence from dead works. His point is that there is no other way except Jesus and that if Jesus starts the works then He will finish it. So Jesus' crucifixion was sufficient to save or it isnt. Having Jesus restart the program bc u think that u blew it, is a shame to Jesus whose sacrifice is sufficient for all time and can be repeated.

j919or Says:

May 14, 2012 - you can reject your faith.""You cant go back to what you were bc u have changed. Further if God is in u , He will discipline you even to the extent of killing u as in Ananias and Saphira, were you to harden ur heart..

j919or Says:

May 14, 2012 - """God must honor free-will?"."Word! Freewill is a myth. We have WILL, but it is controled by so many things and not FREE. And we choose invariably what we believe is best. So belief rules and to believe what is right we first must have the darkness of evil lifted.

jehovahuponyou Says:

May 14, 2012 - "Freewill is a myth."MY POINT EXACTLY, THANKS!

Jesusreighns Says:

May 15, 2012 - A&S where not born again believers, because there is no condemnation for the who are in JC ( Rom8:1) you can not loose your salvation by sinning, but you can reject it by free will. God respect your free will and if you want to reject your salvation and do it with full awareness ( heb6:4) than you lost it and there is no way back anymore.

j919or Says:

May 15, 2012 - A&S werent condemned they were disciplined. 6.4 involves resacrificing christ bc u dont believe the first time was enough to save u

Jesusreighns Says:

May 22, 2012 - they were diciplined? they died remember? dicipline is for correction, this was judgement, same as herod in acts 12 ( which wasn't a believer also)

Jesusreighns Says:

May 22, 2012 - so you think that somebody who is:enlightened, tasted of the heavenly gift, partakers of the Holy Ghost, have tasted the good word of God, the powers of the world to come, doesn't know about the doctrine of being born again ( new creation) and will try to be born again again? doens't make sence, if you read v 4-5 than this is talking about a person who is a mature christian walking in the word and power of God. why would such a person be dumb enough to think he needs to be born again again?

sctflasher379 Says:

May 23, 2012 - well its easy to spot a true christian vs a babylonic christian .. (made up my own word lol) just listn to how they talk, how they treat people, the things they do.. true christians are scared to sin and avoid it, while religious christians do whatever they want and claim to be christian, wen that is just not the case..

sctflasher379 Says:

May 23, 2012 - @sctflasher379 you wont make make it to heaven doing whatever you want, simple as that.. u have free will to do it ur way, but 10/10 ur gonna end up miserable and yes, u will die.. its not meant to fluffed up, its the truth

z3gg4 Says:

May 26, 2012 - The answer is simple: "Sorry mum and dad, it seems I'm just not a fucking idiot".

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