Free Market Fantasies by Noam Chomsky 3/5

MillionthUsername Says:

Feb 5, 2010 - Go look at Ron Paul's record. He is constantly voting against these wars. He does not endorse "corporate wars". Afghanistan was sold to all of us as self-defense. It's like you're saying that if thousands of people are indeed killed by a group of terrorists who have a refuge in a foreign country that no one is justified doinganything about it.Paul did not vote for anything but going afterthe supposed killers. You ought to know that.What would Chomsky do? Send flowers?

newmind1 Says:

Feb 5, 2010 - I've looked at Ron Paul's record. I saw how he voted to invade Afganistan. This war is a extreme case of big brother government. The people that flew the aircrafts in the buildings were from Saudi Arabia any ways not afganistan. This is how much the war has cost us (that's tax payers' money )252,009,946,608. I'm well aware of how the war "was sold to us" Wars are always sold to us that way. Anarchists don't vote to send troops to war.

MillionthUsername Says:

Feb 5, 2010 - Oh, so you're aware of how wars are sold. That's great. So what do you do when you are really attacked by real people from a foreign base? Since "anarchists don't vote to send troops to war," I suppose your answer is "nothing."That's funny because the "anarchists" in Spain didn't act that way. So I guess one must be a pacifist in order to be an anarchist.Fine, if that's your opinion. I can only imagine there a just a handful of such people though. Most people approve of self-defense.

newmind1 Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - We went to war for the same reasons we used to invade Iraq. The propaganda machine scaring us about alqueda  and how its in our national security interest to go blow ups some country that can barely feed its own citizens.

newmind1 Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - We were giving theTaliban money up until we decided to use them as scapegoat. Our Military trained them. Regan Financed their military to fight wars for his oligarchy.  There were terrorist training camps in Germany, Suadi Arabia, and Spain. We didnt bomb any of them? The evidence that Afghanistan harbored Osama Ben laden is insane. We need to get out of there and stop creating puppet governments. your hero Ron Paul would agree with me now too.

MillionthUsername Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - No kidding. Of course there was propaganda. There are also real attacks by real terrorists/states that kill real people. Do you deny that people have the right to self-defense?I looked this up and it just seems to be a resolution. It isn't even legislation. It was 3 days after 9/11 and it just says that the president has constitutional authority to use force against the perpetrators and co-conspirators and such. Do you deny that?If so, then you could never appeal to state powers at all.

MillionthUsername Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - "your hero Ron Paul would agree with me now too"Can you read? Seems you're arguing with someone other than me or even Ron Paul. You're talking about things which are extraneous to the point you brought up about the 9/14 resolution. Try to focus.What is with "your hero"??? I never said that.You can review RP's decades long stance against intervention if you want to. Unless you're just a complete troll, you know where he stands. Saying he supports "corporate wars" is simply false.

MillionthUsername Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - "I supported going after Al Qaida into Afghanistan but, lo & behold, the neocons took over. They forgot about Bin Laden. And what they did, they went into nation-building, not only in Afghanistan, they went unjustifiably over into Iraq. And that's why we're in this mess today." Ron Paul, Iowa Straw Poll debateHe voted against HR 3994 in 2002 which was for "military assistance" to Afghanistan.He introduced HR 3216 for "letters of marque and reprisal" against terrorists, NOT nations.

MillionthUsername Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - A few more points. 1) If RP is "for corporate wars," then why did he vote against the invasion of Iraq? 2) Does RP even claim to be an anarchist? He says he supports the constitution in his official capacity (but he probably is a philosophical anarchist).3) Even the state (though illegitimate) is acting morally when it punishes those who commit what are universally recognized as crimes even by anarchists (eg, murder). Rejecting this forces us to appeal only to vigilantism to fight crime.

newmind1 Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - Man..what are you talking about with "the right to self defense" read what I wrote man. If you go kill the wrong people in the name of self defense then it's not self defense. We've been in that stupid war for 9 years now, because people fell for the self defense propoganda. Of course I'm for self defense, but killing the wrong people in the name of self defense is insane and unconstutional. RP voted for the Afaganistan resolution to give W complete powerto bomb Afganistan.

newmind1 Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - He wants us out of the war now....which is wonderful. Why did you supporte the Afgan war when everybody admits the reason we went in was complete BS. Even the Libertarian think tank the kayto institute admits its an extreme case of big gov. and that we were lied to about the reasons to go in. How do you think we pay for these wars you support? Through stealing money from citizens to kill the wrong people. Turn of fox news man.

newmind1 Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - on the iraq subject.126 democrates congress men, 21 democrate senators, and one independent voted AGAINST the war. while only 6 republican (those that say they believe in small gov) congressmen and 1 senator voted against it.The party of limited gov. sure does cost us a lot of money. Propoganda

MillionthUsername Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - "If you go kill the wrong people in the name of self defense then it's not self defense. "No kidding."Of course I'm for self defense."Then you agree with Ron Paul."RP voted for the Afaganistan resolution to give W complete powerto bomb Afganistan."Totally false.It's a House resolution which states that the president already has constitutional authority to use force for self-defense against the terrorists. Period.The rest you are making up in your head. Read the damn thing.

MillionthUsername Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - "Why did you supporte the Afgan war"I didn't."He wants us out of the war now"More like as soon as he saw they weren't going after Osama and "al-qaeda".I just told you he introduced legislation for "letters of marque and reprisal" in 2002 and also 2007 which he feels are constitutional methods for dealing with non-state terrorists.It just goes after perpetrators, like a bounty.Do you understand English? Are you capable of making distinctions?Please do so then.

MillionthUsername Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - They are not the "party of limited gov't" at all. I'm not a republican, so save your outrage against that party and Fox News for people who actually believe in them.And where the hell are all those democrats now that Obomba is carrying on the mass murder? Not a peep. Code Pink? Anti-war rallies? No, you can hear a pin drop. None of those people are principled either, except for a handful - certainly none of the dem politicians. Hey, but it's ok for Chomsky to say to vote for Obomba, right?

newmind1 Says:

Feb 6, 2010 - Ron Paul supported and told people to vote for Regan (who doubled the national debt and lead a secret war and arms trade) yes so Chomsky said if you have to vote for MCcain or Obama. Obama would be a better choice but he is still very critical of his administration. Maybe much like RP and Regan....god Regan should have been imprisoned.As far as fox news. I can tell you watch John Stossel. I can hear him in your writing. He's on Fox news. Yes I speak english.cheers

MillionthUsername Says:

Feb 7, 2010 - I haven't seen any of John Stossel on Fox, but if you think he sounds like me then he must be doing a good job. : )

zeperf88 Says:

Dec 28, 2010 - The assembly people in Mexico would not otherwise have jobs though. There are no domestic car manufacturers that are being squashed. Also, Mexico is free to pass labor laws. Chomsky is incredibly smart, business does have too big a hand in government, but capitalism does not inherently require special exemptions to businesses.

irishjuwan Says:

Apr 22, 2011 - @5:11------------- love the sarcasm... it happens to destroy everybodys life, but that doesnt really matter... INDISPUTABLE

DystopianEmpire01 Says:

May 12, 2011 - So corporate farms are public services? Bull.

DystopianEmpire01 Says:

May 12, 2011 - Unions are devolving into a welfare system for underperfoming labor.

musicalidea Says:

May 15, 2011 - @DystopianEmpire01 Corporations have developed a welfare system for underperforming capital: the US Government and the Federal Reserve.

DystopianEmpire01 Says:

May 16, 2011 - @musicalidea I agree, there is also more than a trillion in TARP money unspent i've heard, and it can't be spent for any other use.

TheRacistsMustDie Says:

Jun 6, 2011 - I just realized one possible translation for deregulation in Dutch is "ontregeling" which can also mean disruption.

quinnjin2 Says:

Oct 8, 2011 - @DystopianEmpire01 what a crock of shit, you brainwashed moron. wake the fuck and smell the coffee, you ancestors didnt die fighting for your right not to get fucked over so you could piss all over it with your ignorant bullshit.