"Hell holes": North Korea's secret prison camps

MrObamaisawhore Says:

May 23, 2012 - Well you are right there . . even so all of our major media has been bought out by weapon manufacturers (general electric and so on). If people look, they can find information, but most don't. Our educational system is a masterpiece of bullshit. But I mean yeah the west has more information that is so, or SK.

MrObamaisawhore Says:

May 23, 2012 - hopefully they can do this without war, as they both have nuclear weapons. And of course I'm not foolish, I know NK would nuke their own territory as a parting gift.

MrObamaisawhore Says:

May 23, 2012 - yes =) I am impressed. 

NJandhisvideos Says:

May 23, 2012 - Guantanimo bay also holds civilians (American, European, etc.) that won't talk to them. The CIA still denies this. THEY ARE FLOPPY! If, Al-queda (translated to database) knocked down the twin towers then why is the investigation document hidden in a safe by a bunch of Agents that can jump around and beat people up? <- Just a question...

NJandhisvideos Says:

May 23, 2012 - I was going to comment on a man who had been to camp, untill I realized that that was the guy in the video (2:10)

TheTollundWoman Says:

May 24, 2012 - well society of the spectacle is a fascinating book. but while we're on the subject of French philosophy, I'd recommend Camus, "Neither victims nor executions".

TheTollundWoman Says:

May 24, 2012 - the spectacle is controlled information, in a modern, hypertechnical form, from either the state or corporation, both of which have recognized the efficiency of controlling people through essentially drugging them (degradation of life etc.) an interesting theory. but i don't think you realize the extremity of whats happening in North Korea.

TheTollundWoman Says:

May 24, 2012 - well I have heard there are communist and anarchist bookstores in New York...try finding an Anarchist bookstore in Chongjin. and there are programs like Democracy now that openly criticize the government and have a wide number of listeners. and yeah the US education system is failing, because they connected the quality of education in each district to property values. so much for a universal standard in education which is the entire point of state-run education

MrObamaisawhore Says:

May 25, 2012 - Well I grew up in Oregon, and it was a wealthy town, although my family struggles because my mom was sick, and then I moved to Chicago. So I've seen the spectrum, but the purpose behind american schooling comes from Austria, and it's purpose is to cripple free thought and train people to be car mechanics &etc. However, designing a system to discourage free-thought, and consumerism, has now backfired on us, and we are slipping into the history books ourselves.

MrObamaisawhore Says:

May 25, 2012 - And even democracy now is slipping. Have you noticed they no longer ask for donations? I like RT or such, they will lie about Russia but they have the best U.S. news, or press TV. Again, probably worst source for news about Iran, but best for news in the U.S.

MrObamaisawhore Says:

May 25, 2012 - Well I can tell that you've been impacted greatly by what's happening there, so I mean no disrespect. I'm sure I DON'T know the enormity of what's happening there, however it is instructive to contrast it with what is happening in America. Really, has been going on for some time. I didn't intend for the comment to be coupled with a pro-NKean sentiment.

MrObamaisawhore Says:

May 25, 2012 - thank you I'll check it out

MrObamaisawhore Says:

May 25, 2012 - coincidentally, I have the last two parts at least of "Call It Sleep" which is an american adaptation of "Society of the Spectacle". It makes use of american media in the technique of detournment, and is how I fell about DeBord

preemptivestrike20 Says:

May 25, 2012 - Hey dipshit, they have nukes. They can level Soul within hours. We are held hostage because of it. Allow rogue regimes to have nukes and you end up with a North Korea - Impossible to infiltrate.

klee4 Says:

May 25, 2012 - There are people in Guantanamo without TRIAL. What are you smoking. You are always right and others are always wrong; isn't that how dictators think....

klee4 Says:

May 25, 2012 - You cannot LABEL people without trial. There is NO evidence there are families nor there are camps. This is why judicial system have defendant and plaintiff. You just heard plaintiff side ONLY and made judgement. Just like GUANTANAMO BAY.

klee4 Says:

May 25, 2012 - This is NOT aid. There are conditions tied. This is AGREED DEAL with DUE PAYMENT with EXCHANGES. AID does NOT have pre-conditions. Stop demeaning the true people who AID other in need. There was NEVER AID, but a DUE payment which was never made in FULL as AGREED in the DEAL.

TheTollundWoman Says:

May 25, 2012 - No evidence?? Read the testimonies of Kang Chol-hwan, Shin Dong Hyuk, Kim Yong, Hyok Kang. or come to the ROK and talk to the 23,000 people refugees. you don't know what you're talking about and your insulting people who, unlike you, have actually lived under dictatorship. I am starting to see the wisdom of the slogan "Yankee go home". Yankee leftist, go home!

TheTollundWoman Says:

May 25, 2012 - well, South Korea has not had some "agreement" with the north, the ROK has done everything it can to help people in the north, but the *dictatorship* of the Kim dynasty doesn't care about its citizens

BigMrJuarez Says:

May 25, 2012 - NO SHIT YOU DUMB FUCK

SirSleezy Says:

May 26, 2012 - yes i back "the people* its too bad that usa is worried about oil and shit, while these people eat shit grown with their shit.,....more to come

klee4 Says:

May 26, 2012 - Yes, many SoKor have helped NoKor, but there are SoKor conservatives who divide and arrest SoKor who are pro-korean and pro-unification. SoKor conservatives are anti-unification and anti-korean while pro-japanese like the "OpJaeBees" which during Japan invasion of Korea during WWII assisted Japan for "SELF PROFIT" & "economic gain". Conservatives are again prosecuting those who want to unite the koreans. Lets make one thing clear, conservatives will sell Korean Nation for self profit.

TheTollundWoman Says:

May 26, 2012 - its South Korea, or the ROK, not "SoKor". In fact the Saenuri party is actively encouraging reunification, Lee Myung Bak started the "reunification tax" so the nation would be prepared to rebuild the infrastructure of the north, two of Saenuri's newly elected representatives in the National Assembly are from the north, it is Leftists, who glorify the dictatorship that is keeping Korea divided, who are the real enemies of unification

TheTollundWoman Says:

May 26, 2012 - After the war most of the pro-Japanese collaborators fled to the north, where the so-called "communist" government actually copied the Fascist ideology of Tojo's Japan.read BR Myers' book

TheTollundWoman Says:

May 26, 2012 - you don't know what you're talking about. most of the leaders of the Korean communist movement studied in Tokyo. Syngman Rhee, the conservative first president, was an anti-fascist leader of the government-in-exile in Shanghai. Kim Gu supported the south as well.