Jet Li -championnat of china 1978 [chung quan]

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 28, 2012 - I agree that a Wushu master is more advanced than a boxer, but no victory is predestined. Are you saying that if a boxer took off his gloves, he couldn't kill barehanded? It was interesting to watch the first mixed martial arts competions like UFC, and you never knew how one style would far against another. I saw an average sized martial artist fight a 7 ft tall sumo, and with one punch he broke the sumo's nose. 1 punch and the match was over. Anything's possible

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 28, 2012 - Now it seems the UFC fighters are trying to be fluid in as many styles as possible. Being a top wrestler means someone could still punch you out, or an Akiado master could submit if he is picked up and slammed down with the force of 500 lbs. impact. I really like the way mixed martial arts are progressing.

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 28, 2012 - Bruce Lee streetfought as a teenager in Hong Kong, and had some tournament experience. 1 article I read in a kung fu magazine honoring Bruce said " He (bruce) would look at his small asian hands and then look at Muhammed Ali with his bigger size, mobility and hand speed, and wonder if he could match ali. Later the article suggested that Bruce thought he couldn't, but I would put my money on Bruce. Ali was fast, but Bruce seemed faster, and Ali didn't hit very hard.

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 28, 2012 - I'll bet Jet could intimidate someone into backing out of a fight if he wanted to.

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 28, 2012 - I'm sure that if Jet and an olympic floor gymnist accidentally ran into each other at the same time doing their routines, the gymnist would get the worst of it. Gymnists just practice, martial arts masters are ready to react to any situation as best as possible and counter any attack, within limits. I was a baseball player, but when I started to play football it challenged me in ways baseball didn't. We used ourselves as battering rams and did more running.

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 28, 2012 - Why not? Marine recruits are labeled as killers the day they graduate from basic training. That's why they put bayonets on their guns, to turn them into swords or spears. Martial artists practice and train, but so do Marines, fencers, wrestlers, assassins, bodyguards, boxers, snipers. When a Marine graduates, he is supposed to be ready to kill from that moment on. Hershel Walker the football player has fought in mixed martial arts, so these things can be learned.

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 28, 2012 - Some of them sure seem able to take a lot of punishment in the ring, though. How many times have you seen a tibet monk bleeding in the face the way some of the MMA fighters do and keep on fighting. Boxers too.

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 28, 2012 - It's art and self defense, isn't it?

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 28, 2012 - How long has Mayweather been a pro boxer? Is it over 10 years?

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 28, 2012 - Or defend.

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - Muhammed Ali doesn't look so healthy now. Boxing was a way of learning to fight, whether in war or as a police man/protector. American military practice boxing to hone their skills, but it's training, and when the time comes to go to war they loose the gloves and use whatever their hand to hand training is to stop or kill the enemy. Remember the movie Patton where soldier told him " We ran out of ammo. Then the fight continued hand to hand."

ichixix Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - - there's only one thing that truly labels a killer as a killer, and that's killing some one. You can know a billion ways to kill someone, but you're not a killer till you've done it at least once. A person can know a billion fighting styles, but he's not a good fighter till he wins fights against competitive people. Using some examples you mentioned. A good fighter is defined by his fights like a boxer by his boxing, sniper by his sniping, etc.

ichixix Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - you wouldn't say a guy is a good boxer if you haven't seen him fight. . You cant say a person has trained anything properly till you see them actually use it or do it. Sniper, fencer, boxer, wrestler, assassin, etc. These are titles defined by a type of action. If that action isn't carried out, then the person doesn't deserve that title. A good fighter must be defined by his fights imho

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - It looks more exciting if a few fancy moves are added to a routing. I've never fought someone who was doing sommersaults and splits before. It might throw my strategy off. You know Jet can punch if he can do more advanced moves like these. My nephew's ten and they spar a little during his Karate classes, but with safety in mind. I'm not sure when the gloves come off and students use real contact tactics.

ichixix Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - now THAT, i certainly wont deny. Honestly, I've been trainin a bit more than 7 years, but If I ran into Jet and he did some of his moves, I'd freak out and flee out of the assumption that someone who can control their body like that will easily f**k me up!

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - I've only been in a few, fortunately, but they were broken up or stopped when one person has had enough. Fighting for my life would probably shake me up quite a bit. That's why I plan to help my younger nephew with his Karate classes so I can learn something at the same time too.

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - I wondered about that. when the star wars character Darth Maul was being picked for the movie, they wanted someone who could do spinning, whirling side kicks to appear more entertaining and exciting. They said they chose the Wushu style because it was the closest thing to that kind of kicking. It made Darth Maul stand out more. In all the American magazines I read, it said that the actor who did Darth Maul used Wushu, so I assumed it was something separate from kung fu.

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - That makes sense. Does Japanese Karate count as Wushu?

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - So that means Wushu could mean Kung Fu or Karate? I thought there was a big debate on whether Chinese Kung Fu was better than Japanese Karate. That they were different and rival styles for martial artists to use. At least in the 1970's while Bruce Lee was alive. He took from all styles and combined them into his Jeet Kun Do philosophy.

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - So that means all Chinese martial arts forms can be called by the same name, Kung Fu? And then you get sub classifications like Akeido, dragon style, eagle claw, tiger claw styles, Jeet Kun Do, even Tai Chi?

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - Because it is not the only moves he knows how to do. He has many punches, grabs, kicks, and if you start to get worried about one of his abilities, he comes at you with another. Some boxers get confused if you simply change from right handed boxing to a left handed stance. Imagine 10 or 20 different ways to go after a beer puncher.

metalfiend124 Says:

Feb 29, 2012 - Football teams don't just run the ball all the time. They would be at a disadvantage. They don't just pass the ball all the time either. That would be like throwing a hail mary on every play. that's what a beer puncher looks like to a kung fu fighter. Even a guy who is a good wrestler and a good boxer would be a handful. Look at the early MMA fights, you never knew what one style would do to another. Then they started learning multiple styles.

LordHyren Says:

Mar 1, 2012 - @BojislavPushkaAgree for another reason. Boxers only have a very small portion of techniques available. They by rule can't throw, kick, or grapple. Which in a fight with someone trained to do all that and strike gives a typically severe disadvantage. Its not about intent, damage is damage and can cause death with enough accumulation. But a boxer no matter how good would get wrecked by most any grappling or throwing master.

ricojr84 Says:

Mar 27, 2012 - kung fu is like ballet for boys

marketanarchist2011 Says:

Apr 11, 2012 - Basically, Chinese martial arts are all Wushu. Tai Chi Chuan and Bagua are northern style, more internal and about controlling the other guy's force. Kung Fu is southern, like Wing Chun, Choi Lee Fut, Snake Style, Crane Style, Praying Mantis and others. Jeet Kune Do is a philosophy about mixing more styles into one so one could defeat against any attack.