Full Metal Jacket vs Hollow Point episode 1

koiashesembers Says:

Feb 19, 2012 - you have yet to post anything related to someone being sued for shooting someone in their house. That was a total irrrelevant case that has nothing to do with civil liability, or being sued for shooting someone. While i applaud your efforts, please consult with your high school law teacher and ask for another example, or just give up and let us all move on with our lives, because i am, i'm not going to argue what i know is right, and obviously you do too

lullebulle2 Says:

Mar 2, 2012 - i would tap that

fawkUtube Says:

Mar 4, 2012 - Hollow points expand on impact causing them to slow down but the benifit is they rip up tones more soft tissue and its pretty much a kill shot every time you hit center mass where as a full metal jacket could travel right through you and leave heal-able wound that wont take you off your feet so if you use FMJ you might hit your target faster but your target will still be shooting back at you even when they are hit when a blender is sent into your gut you tend to fall down faster

proaudiohd Says:

Mar 18, 2012 - Need faster camera with backlighting

Lebhel Says:

Mar 23, 2012 - So this video has taught me there is significantly less penetration depth with HP v FMJ which is expected. However, when comparing the FMJ of a 9 and a .40 the larger cal penetrates deeper? I always thought a higher cal had less potential to pass through a target than a 9mm. I ask because I'm looking for a new handgun for home defense and i dont want my bullet passing thru my victim into my nice tv or my cat...can anyone clear this up for me?

Earssss Says:

Mar 24, 2012 - glock 19,, hollow point

Hushvick Says:

Mar 31, 2012 - Bigger rounds usually come with more powder, so more energy. Even though the round is bigger it has more momentum allowing it to penetrate deeper. If the two rounds were fired with the same amount of powder then the 9mm would definitely penetrate further. If you're not dead set on a pistol for home defense, a shotgun wouldn't be a poor choice since they can be cheap, reliable, and deadly even with target load, especially target load up close, which is what you would expect in a house.

tikotinzee Says:

Apr 9, 2012 - let me come over and check

CheeseyPie12 Says:

Apr 9, 2012 - please do

YamahaWR200 Says:

Apr 12, 2012 - Yeah. Basically if you ever see 40 cal penetrate deeper than 9mm it is because the 40 is basically only available as a 40 +P equivalent. 40 is an over pressure round always. 9mm is a standard pressure round that you can buy +P if you choose. Basically if they had shot 9mm NATO or a heavy 9mm it will out penetrate a 40 any day. Basically the bigger the cal, the less penetration potential. A hot 9 vs basically any 40, and the 9 will always penetrate deeper. (FMJ I am talking about)

YamahaWR200 Says:

Apr 12, 2012 - Also, normally people buy 115gr 9mm rounds. These will penetrate significantly less than a 124 or 147gr load. That is light for caliber. And people usually shoot 165-180gr 40 cal which would be equivalent to 124 or 147gr for 9mm. 115gr 9mm would be more equivalent to 135gr 40. That is one of the problems with most tests you see. They aren't "fair" however you choose to take that. They are not comparing apples to apples usually. Not knocking this guy's tests though..

averagejoeamerican Says:

Apr 16, 2012 - I carry all the time, usually a Glock 26 (9mm compact), sometime a PPK/S or Ruger LPC. With a suit or heavy coat, sometimes a 92F of XD-45. I feel safe with all of them. Why? Because I can hit what it shoot at. So many people get wrapped up in this and that of what caliber is best.... blah blah blah. Spend more time practicing.

averagejoeamerican Says:

Apr 16, 2012 - The Mossad (who know a thing or two about killing people) use a .22LR model 70 or 71. I laugh when someone starts yapping about the 9mm, .380 or even a 22LR. I say "Let me shot you in the chest right now with this Glock, then you can tell my how 9mm sucks".

leftylethborg Says:

Apr 17, 2012 - does it really matter either one in the head the result is the same YOUR FUCKED

purpleshock545 Says:

Apr 24, 2012 - 40 cal!? since when?

purpleshock545 Says:

Apr 24, 2012 - HP rounds are not meant for penetration, they are meant for stopping power

YamahaWR200 Says:

Apr 24, 2012 - Since when what? 40 S&W is an over-pressure cartridge. It is well known.. You can google it and read about it..

Gun4Freedom Says:

May 17, 2012 - What you said about cartridge pressure is true, but depending on the weight of the bullets being fired the .40 does have the capacity to penetrate deeper, or to the same depth, depending on the 9mm loading it's compared to. A 180grn (.40) bullet will carry a lot more momentum than a 9mm in 115, 125, or 147grn. That extra energy in heavy bullet loadings for .40 will keep it going longer. If you really want a .40 with penetration, just buy a 10mm :D

Gun4Freedom Says:

May 17, 2012 - If you don't want overpenetration in a hd situation, use a .45acp with light (~185grn) hollow points. The wide, light bullet loses energy very fast once it hits the target. You could try frangibles but I've had mixed results with them. The .45 is a low velocity round to begin with, that fires relatively heavy bullets at 750-950fps on average, so penetration is not super deep. However a slug almost a half inch wide is nothing to laugh at. It has endured for over 100 years for a reason.

YaYCell43 Says:

May 17, 2012 - well that was fucking eventful

YamahaWR200 Says:

May 17, 2012 - I understand that. That's why I was saying that if they shot 9mm nato or a heavy for cal 9mm it will out penetrate it. Obviously if you shoot a 90gr bullet it won't do too well. I was just correcting the original poster's misunderstanding of what happened.

Gun4Freedom Says:

May 17, 2012 - Okay, I reread the whole conversation now and I think I understand what you are saying. That the same weight bullet in 9mm as .40 with the same velocity will penetrate deeper due to the smaller diameter of the bullet, thus creating less resistance when passing into the target. Sorry, I was just thinking of the different factory loading bullet velocity and weight, not the physics of ballistic penetration for identical weight projectiles of different diameter. My bad, man.

YamahaWR200 Says:

May 17, 2012 - Ha it's cool man. I'll message you a link. You can read a write-up I did about penetration with a bunch of different cals.. It is a pretty interesting read to see how the calibers stack up to each other penetration wise..

rhinosdabom Says:

May 22, 2012 - it doesnt matter how much penetration it has unless you are shooting a morbidly obese person with a foot of fat before their vital organs. What matters is how much stopping power you get per shot. Hollow point rounds have hollow points so they explode into shrapnel on penetration. If you cut a cross section of that ballistics gel you would notice that the hollow point ripped apart those 9 inches of penetration whereas the full jacket went straight through

deaconaoak3 Says:

May 24, 2012 - Thanks for the video. 40 vs 9mm I think the answer is in the large number of law enforcement agencies that have switched from 9mm to 40s&w. There are many that still use 9mm so evidently they are close enough, to each other ,to compete . Chest puffers over nothing.